Is it possible to acoustically treat a listening room that features panoramic windows and/or doors without putting large absorbers and diffusers against them that spoil the view?
Is it possible to acoustically treat a listening room that features panoramic windows and/or doors without putting large absorbers and diffusers against them that spoil the view?
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There are different things one can do but it all depends on the size and layout of your room, also if it’s dedicated or multi-use space. The system matters too. Acoustic solutions should be specific not generic!Is it possible to acoustically treat a listening room that features panoramic windows and/or doors without putting large absorbers and diffusers against them that spoil the view?
you ask a relative question.
there is no magic treatment for a listening room that can acoustically neutralize a window unless you somehow cover it.
large glass surfaces will always compromise ultimate music reproduction performance. the question will be to what degree, and what are your expectations for large scale music? many rooms like this can sound very fine, only that how much more 'fine' could they sound without the glass surfaces?
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I think Mike simply saying no glass is better than glass and I agree. The super smooth hard surface is the factor also not just how strong, how hard, how it could vibrate that effect sound.Mike,
Do you have data that supports such strong statement ? There are many types of class, some of them have very different acoustical properties from common cheap window 4mm glass. A good friend has an house with a room
with a large window with a fantastic mountain view. Although he does not have an audio system, for safety reasons the window is made of special and very expensive tamper free glass, harder to break than a brick wall, that does not sound at all like glass panel when you tap it. Unfortunately I could not get acoustic data on these special glasses.
Mike,
Do you have data that supports such strong statement ? There are many types of class, some of them have very different acoustical properties from common cheap window 4mm glass. A good friend has an house with a room
with a large window with a fantastic mountain view. Although he does not have an audio system, for safety reasons the window is made of special and very expensive tamper free glass, harder to break than a brick wall, that does not sound at all like glass panel when you tap it. Unfortunately I could not get acoustic data on these special glasses.
I think Mike simply saying no glass is better than glass and I agree. The super smooth hard surface is the factor also not just how strong, how hard, how it could vibrate that effect sound.
Change speakers to horn.
Beautiful absorber.I designed my old listening/living room in a Miami condo with 180 degree ocean view. 16 separate
acoustical/black out curtains with
different settings for critical music
listening, movies and party mode.
The room had no parallel walls,
hurricane proof floor to ceiling glass
and granite floors. The end result
was surprisingly good for critical
music listening. The 120 inch
screen and the center speaker
had motors and disappeared into
the ceiling when not in use.
The door into the kitchen was a floor
to ceiling bass absorber/diffuser that
could slide for opening/closing.
The speakers where dipoles, and
i preferred the sound with floor to ceiling absorbers/ diffusers behind
them, also on sliders, so they did not obstruct the view when not in use.
The only pictures i have, where not taken to document the system
regretfully
I think Mike simply saying no glass is better than glass and I agree. The super smooth hard surface is the factor also not just how strong, how hard, how it could vibrate that effect sound.
we know i'm not ever a data guy, i only observe.
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This is my point - how can we be sure that we are not simply and wrongly transposing our visual perceptions of glass, obtained mostly from its reflectivity in the optical bandwidth (400-800nm wavelength) and touch of common glass to the audio zone (20mm- 20m wavelength)? Would we have the same feeling if the glass was painted in mat black?
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