DC Offset COMPENSATION - NHB-108 Model One Version B ...

joeinid

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I am curious as to how many Dartzeel NHB-108 Model One Version B users disable the DC Offset Compensation Circuit on their amps for better sound? If the jumper is set to OFF, then manual DC Offset Compensation must be performed manually on occasion. Any advice? I know, according to the manual, it definitely recommends the 50 ohm Zeel/BNC connection and DC Offset Compensation OFF for best sound. Your thoughts greatly appreciated.
 

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I am curious as to how many Dartzeel NHB-108 Model One Version B users disable the DC Offset Compensation Circuit on their amps for better sound? If the jumper is set to OFF, then manual DC Offset Compensation must be performed manually on occasion. Any advice? I know, according to the manual, it definitely recommends the 50 ohm Zeel/BNC connection and DC Offset Compensation OFF for best sound. Your thoughts greatly appreciated.

Joe, do not do this without talking to me first. If your amp has the new circuit, it does not matter.
 

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Joe, do not do this without talking to me first. If your amp has the new circuit, it does not matter.

Thanks Jonathan,

I am replacing a Model A with a Model B. I will talk to you first.
 

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I bought mine in mid-2011... It has the new circuit, right?
And why doesn't it matter on the newer circuit?


alexandre
 

jtinn

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I bought mine in mid-2011... It has the new circuit, right?
And why doesn't it matter on the newer circuit?


alexandre

Most probably you have the latest circuit Alexandre. The new circuit totally eliminates the need for DC offset adjustments.

The old circuit without DC comp engaged has about 10 db great signal to noise ratio. The new circuit actually has a higher Signal to noise ratio and no need for DC comp.

Hope that helps.
 

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Joe, what is the difference between the A and B models? Is one a newer sonically superior version?

Version B features fully transformer balanced inputs.

And from the manual: Version B now features a built-in DC compensation circuit. In order to fully benefit
from total lack of any overall negative feedback.

There is also a new circuit update called SCNP available on both, described above.
 

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Version B features fully transformer balanced inputs.

And from the manual: Version B now features a built-in DC compensation circuit. In order to fully benefit from total lack of any overall negative feedback.

There is also a new circuit update called SCNP available on both, described above.

As far as I know, there is no official news about this upgrade. I found about it at Audiogon some years ago, but there is no reference to it at Darzeel or bluelightaudio sites. Later Herve Deletraz told me that the new circuit also increased significantly the maximum current that the NHB 108 could deliver before the protection need to actuate.

BTW, the NHB 108 is really a fantastic amplifier for the Aida's. It complements the "fastness" and the delicate, airy treble of this speaker astonishingly well.
 

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Ah, did you try the NHB-108 with the Aida! Nice... Did it run out of gas? I thought it would be kind of hard to get that full, round LF that I heard the Aida producing with McIntosh amps... But also there was no HF to speak of, so I blamed that on the amp/preamp....


alexandre
 

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Ah, did you try the NHB-108 with the Aida! Nice... Did it run out of gas? I thought it would be kind of hard to get that full, round LF that I heard the Aida producing with McIntosh amps... But also there was no HF to speak of, so I blamed that on the amp/preamp....


alexandre

In my room and with my music it was powerful enough for me - it never went in trouble. However I would love to listen to two Dartzeel amplifiers driving the speakers in by-amp just to compare with the results of a single amplifier. The NHB 108B does not sound like the ARC REF150, that has a special synergy with the ARC preamplifier, but up to now the 108B was overall the best sounding amplifier with the Aida's. Curiously I prefer the sound of the NHB108 with ARC REF40 to the Dartzeel preamplifier.

Still have not listened to the ARC REF250's, the natural partners of the Aida's. Waiting for cooler days ...
 

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