Daniel Hertz Master Class Test- AVShowrooms

Peter Breuninger

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The files are named accordingly:

AVShowrooms Master Class Test

Mark Levinson added filtering and EQ to the original WAV file. The file is from MA Recordings MO 88a, Nima Ben David Resonance, track 1.
 

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Thanks, Peter. I just downloaded the files. I'll try them out. BTW, it took about an hour to download the two files. RapidShare isn't too rapid.

Larry
 

soundArgument

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Thanks for posting these files, Peter!

I'm not sure if you or ML selected the track, but it was a good choice: it demonstrates very clearly the difference the software makes.
 

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Hi Peter,

Did ML apply filters and EQ specific to this track or is it a global preset? It really did sound good, I just don't know if it is because he tweaked the track or if it sounded good because of the player's default settings and native capabiliy.

TIA

Jack
 

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Well, for my taste, it's not a good track...
Anyway, I prefer the original... The tweaked track sounds muffled, with a noticeable mid-bass bump... They Wilson-ized the track :D


alexandre
 

mark levinson

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Hi Alexandre,
Thanks for your willingness to audition the tracks. You probably mixed up the tracks. The Master Class track has significantly more high frequency content than the original. If the sound is muffled, as you say, it is the original track. Overall, your playback system may want a different tonal balance adjustment, as there is a significant variation in frequency response of speakers and systems. Master Class allows you to do that in 0.1dB steps.
 

mark levinson

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Hi Peter,
I appreciate your turning me on to Nima Ben David's wonderful music and excellent recording. We played the Master Class version of the first track for many people at T.H.E. Show, and it was a big hit. Her music is very special, and the original recording needs very little adjustment, but it really makes a difference. The upper frequencies and harmonics of fine string instruments are hard to capture with recording, an area where Master Class is very useful in restoring natural sound.

Note that Master Class does no "filtering" at all. A+ is not a filter, and the tone controls (EQ) only adjust tonal balance. The Master Class EQ was developed by Dick Burwen for the Cello Audio Palette, built for 15 continuous years (1985 - 2000). The AP introduced EQ to the residential world and proved that normal people can use it and obtain great benefits. Instead of the 10 units audio experts said we would sell, we sold 1,000 units, and they are still in high demand. But EQ alone is not enough. Master Class is the digital AP exactly with A+ and many features. A+ is essential to get the overall result. As you may recall, it took around 30 seconds to tune Nima's recording and Render and Save an AIFF file which is what you posted.

Many audiophiles are not aware that EQ is used to make every speaker and recording. Virtually every recording is mastered, and the playback systems for mastering vary by +/- 12dB so the recordings do too. This difference does not go away when you change components.

We will soon post a collection of original and Master Class-ed tracks on www.danielhertz.com for those who want to hear what can be done with Master Class. You beat me to it! Thanks for posting the first such comparison on line.
 
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asiufy

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Hi Alexandre,
Thanks for your willingness to audition the tracks. You probably mixed up the tracks. The Master Class track has significantly more high frequency content than the original. If the sound is muffled, as you say, it is the original track. Overall, your playback system may want a different tonal balance adjustment, as there is a significant variation in frequency response of speakers and systems. Master Class allows you to do that in 0.1dB steps.

Mark,

I'll get back to the files and double check.

For now, I'd much rather have the actual app, on trial mode, than test these pre-made files, with unfamiliar (and uninteresting to me) music...

thanks,
alexandre
 

Bruce B

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Hi Peter,
I appreciate your turning me on to Nima Ben David's wonderful music and excellent recording. We played the Master Class version of the first track for many people at T.H.E. Show, and it was a big hit. Her music is very special, and the original recording needs very little adjustment, but it really makes a difference. The upper frequencies and harmonics of fine string instruments are hard to capture with recording, an area where Master Class is very useful in restoring natural sound.

Note that Master Class does no "filtering" at all. A+ is not a filter, and the tone controls (EQ) only adjust tonal balance. The Master Class EQ was developed by Dick Burwen for the Cello Audio Palette, built for 15 continuous years (1985 - 2000). The AP introduced EQ to the residential world and proved that normal people can use it and obtain great benefits. Instead of the 10 units audio experts said we would sell, we sold 1,000 units, and they are still in high demand. But EQ alone is not enough. Master Class is the digital AP exactly with A+ and many features. A+ is essential to get the overall result. As you may recall, it took around 30 seconds to tune Nima's recording and Render and Save an AIFF file which is what you posted.

Many audiophiles are not aware that EQ is used to make every speaker and recording. Virtually every recording is mastered, and the playback systems for mastering vary by +/- 12dB so the recordings do too. This difference does not go away when you change components.

We will soon post a collection of original and Master Class-ed tracks on www.danielhertz.com for those who want to hear what can be done with Master Class. You beat me to it! Thanks for posting the first such comparison on line.

Welcome to the forum Mark!
 

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I DL the two tracks, I liked definitively the AIFF EQ one, even if I'm not remotely a friend of EQ, but this EQ didn't destroy music integrity of this already extraordinary MA Recording.

All listening was done with Audirvana Plus player and two DACs I own, Playback Designs Series 5 and TEAC UD-501, the same results from both of them.

It's a shame that we can not get Daniel Hertz Master Class for a two weeks trial.

Roch
 

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