Advanced aliens could 'conquer and colonise' our planet, warns Stephen Hawking

[NorthStar]

• http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...wking/ar-BBwgePY?li=AAggNb9&OCID=ansmsnnews11

This guy is truly thinking ahead!
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British physicist Stephen Hawking says aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with extraterrestrial life.

Stephen Hawking thinks that making contact with aliens would be a very bad idea indeed. But with new, massive telescopes, we humans are stepping up the search. Have we really thought this through?

? https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/apr/30/stephen-hawking-right-aliens

He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”

He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”

? http://www.space.com/29999-stephen-hawking-intelligent-alien-life-danger.html

 

[JackD201]

I guess he finally got around to watching ID4 LOL

 

[853guy]

I guess he finally got around to watching ID4 LOL

Or Oblivion.

Um, hasn't the human race being doing a great job of the whole 'conquer and colonise' thing for, er... several thousand years already? Do we really need an alien civilisation to do that when we seem to be great at using up all our resources ourselves?

Just sayin'.

 

[NorthStar]

Good one Jack!

Who knows if we are still here in a billion years who would have stolen all our most precious resources:
diamonds, gold, credit cards, aluminum, plutonium, high-end audio shops, water, air, trees, winds, waves, ...

...And who would be populating/alienating the remaining of this planet as we know it today...Earth. If it still exists, of course.
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? The way I see it: Looking deep down @ ourselves/humanity I am not eliminating the possibility of a day coming up when accidentally man would stumble into another galaxy of the universe with a new lifeform just on that threshold to be discovered and inadvertently invited to our own planet/galaxy by the world's president, only to be satisfied in annihilating us all because we don't fit the universe's principles. Even the sperm of life is contaminated. There is no reversing. We are spinning in a wheel and revolving @ our paste on its own time capsule and dimensional revolution.

? http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...=A4B4726971C941C783CE0DC50704B2 E6&FORM=QBLH

 

[MadFloyd]

This is why we're messing it up with Global Warming - to make it less attractive to would be interstellar conquerors.

 

[NorthStar]

Good point Ian, but I believe our planet is still worth colonizing by aliens for our beautiful terrains, mountains, forests, beaches, blue skies, rich oceans, rivers, ice and high-end audio gear...including the great music players.
Aliens have to be quick if they want to invade us and take over, because in thousand years from now our planet will lose some of its most precious values: natural habitats, wildlife, clean air, well maintained balance of the ecologic system...all that sort of jazz. ...Plus Man's brain. @ the paste our humanity is leading there won't be any brain left in Man. :b

This is truly an "evolutionary" subject.

 

[BlueFox]

I certainly hope advanced aliens can conquer our world. They wouldn't be very advanced if they couldn't.

Then again, why would they care. This planet is just one of similar billions in the 'verse. Of course, if they are all occupied by even more advanced aliens then we are in deep doo doo.

 

[NorthStar]

The only type of aliens that can steal our planet from us are the type that can adapt to our atmosphere. Most aliens wouldn't be able to do that; they live in different atmospheric zones.
If they come near our globe they'd most likely die of asphyxiation, instantly. But many years from now, yes they would be able; because of more nuclear radiations and chemical debris.
The more we pollute the better chance we give the aliens to take over.

So that guy, Stephen Hawking, he's into something here.

 

[cjfrbw]

I would suspect that aliens who can traverse interstellar space know how to obtain resources without mindlessly plundering inhabited planets. What I think they might have is curiosity of how life, intelligence and culture evolve. That might be something they have lost touch with in their own murky evolution, so they would probably be experimentalists and observers, considering our planet an ongoing laboratory of some kind.

There is an interesting show on SyFy called "The Expanse", a pretty good one, in which there are no space aliens, just different factions of humans who have evolved outward towards Mars and the asteroid belt and who have evolved differently, both physically and culturally, and are at odds with one another.

 

[NorthStar]

I think we should start building a shield around our planet, against invaders from other galaxies...advanced and highly sophisticated aliens, Carl.

 

[bonzo75]

I hope nobody tells these aliens that we have oil

 

[es347]

I hope nobody tells these aliens that we have oil

..or pantsuits

 

[es347]

I think we should start building a shield around our planet, against invaders from other galaxies...advanced and highly sophisticated aliens, Carl.

..uhhh ok

 

[Zero000]

We do need to be careful. Deep fried human could be a delicacy.

 

[NorthStar]

? http://muvivanz.com/play.php?movie=tt5275828
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Lo and Behold: Reveries of the Connected World

• http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/29/lo-and-behold-and-mia-madre-reviews

"To make a documentary about the Internet requires nerve. To do so when you can hardly be bothered with a cell phone, however, takes both innocence and bravado, plus a pinch of madness. All of which means that Werner Herzog, now aged seventy-three, is right for the job, and the result is “Lo and Behold: Reveries of the Connected World.” The movie is divided into ten parts, none of which could be mistaken for a commandment; Herzog’s documentaries have always been fired more by marvelling, and by an explorer’s ache to learn, than by any pedagogic urge to tell. If he were struck color-blind tomorrow, he would instantly embark on a film about Matisse.

The first section, entitled “The Early Days,” lures us to the birthplace of the Internet, in a reconstructed room at U.C.L.A.—“some sort of a shrine,” according to Herzog, who is on permanent lookout for the amusing panoply of things that human beings choose to adulate when God is unavailable for comment. The spiritual hint is reinforced by Leonard Kleinrock, a professor of computer science, who was present in what he calls the “holy room,” on October 29, 1969, when a message was transmitted to the Stanford Research Institute, “host to host.” If you still believe that the big event of that year was the moon landing, wise up. The real heaven was being glimpsed on Earth.

Other disciples of the digital church are interviewed by Herzog. One of them, the genial Danny Hillis, recalls a time when all users of the new technology could be listed, with their geographical addresses and phone numbers, in a slim directory. “There were two other Dannys on the Internet, and I knew them both,” he says. How did we progress from a handful of Dannys to a state of affairs in which a global edition of the users’ directory would be some seventy-two miles thick, and each of your Shih Tzus has its own Twitter account? Unsurprisingly, the story of that progress is too grand a saga even for Herzog, and he prefers, in the remaining nine parts of the film, to launch a series of whimsical raids on the ironies, or the vertiginous pitfalls, of life online. Thus, we get “The Glory of the Net,” “The Dark Side,” “Life Without the Net,” “The End of the Net,” “Earthly Invaders,” “Internet on Mars,” “Artificial Intelligence,” “The Internet of Me,” and “The Future.”

A few of those phrases bear the aroma of science fiction, even though, as someone points out in “Lo and Behold,” nobody at work in the genre was prophetic enough to foresee the Internet. (Readers of H. G. Wells might demur. In “The World Brain,” a book of essays published in 1938, Wells envisioned an era when “any student, in any part of the world, will be able to sit with his projector in his own study at his or her convenience to examine any book, any document, in an exact replica.”) One reliable pleasure of a Herzog documentary is his talent for truffling up people who seem as singular as he is, and the new film does not disappoint, offering a mixture of terrified folk who want nothing to do with computers and shining optimists who want computers to do everything on our behalf. “Whenever a self-driving car makes a mistake, automatically all the other cars know about it, including future unborn cars.” So says Sebastian Thrun, once of Google, now at Stanford, effortlessly merging the rhetoric of the pro-life lobby with a plot straight out of Pixar. He adds, “The ability of cars to develop artificial intelligence is so much greater than the ability of people to keep up with them.”

So that’s settled. Mankind will be conquered not to the sound of marching metal-boned Schwarzeneggers but to the soft hum of an unoccupied family Prius. The shape of things to come is a subject very dear to the hearts of the high-tech evangelists Herzog talks to, and it accounts for the pulse of freakish comedy that beats through “Lo and Behold.” We meet a young fellow called Joydeep Biswas, a name upon which Thomas Pynchon could not improve, who deploys soccer-playing robots at Carnegie Mellon. As he cradles one of his players—roughly the size of a casserole dish—and declares, “We do love Robot 8,” the camera lingers mischievously on his enraptured grin. Biswas hopes that, by 2050, robots will trounce the world champions of the day. What he has yet to ponder, I suspect, is whether such devices can, or should, be programmed to fulfill the other functions that soccer fans demand. Will a next-generation Robot 8 swear at the referee and fall down clutching its circuit board in superbly feigned agony, because a human’s boot has clipped it on the wheel? Our gifts are easy to mimic; our sins and frailties, however—the glitch-ridden software of mortality—will be a tougher call.

“Lo and Behold” is, by virtue of its scope, one of Herzog’s more scattershot endeavors. It lacks the ardent focus of films like “The Great Ecstasy of Woodcarver Steiner” (1974) or “Grizzly Man” (2005), which burrowed down into the quiddities of a single soul—first a Swiss ski jumper, then a guy who lived among bears and died at their claws. Then, there is the wealth of material that the new movie dances over or simply ignores. To make a documentary about the Internet that scarcely mentions sex, as Herzog does, is like writing a history of gardening and turning your nose up at the roses. (And the manure.) Social media, likewise, earn little more than a glance, although you might imagine that Herzog, who once advocated “real war against commercials, real war against talk shows,” would have much to say about the smothering of knowledge in opinion. He is scathing, in “Lo and Behold,” about the “sick curiosity” of digital rubbernecking, presenting us with a family whose torment at the loss of a daughter, in a car crash, was at once multiplied and traduced when photographs of her decapitated body, taken by a first responder, were posted online and sent to her father as e-mail attachments. Herzog refuses to show images of the girl, even when she was alive, electing instead to film “places in the house that she liked.”

There is certainly enough of him here, and of his trademark voice-overs, to gratify his admirers. It should be impossible to sound simultaneously droning and clipped, but somehow Herzog manages it, and it’s delicious to watch the expressions on the faces of neuroscientists as he inquires, “Could it be that the Internet starts to dream of itself?” He also interviews Elon Musk, whose riches are currently funding research into extraterrestrial travel. Musk begins, “Right now, we can’t even get one person to Mars, so clearly—” Herzog jumps in. “I would come along,” he says. “I wouldn’t have a problem. One-way ticket.” Pause. Musk gives an anxious half-smile, as if being formally introduced to his first Martian, but, hell, why not? Who better to send to the red planet than the man who directed “Fitzcarraldo” (1982), an epic of the madly impossible? Such is Werner Herzog’s idea, I reckon, of the perfect vacation: to infinity and beyond."
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If you have the chance...100% directly related to our topic. Extremely powerful in some scenes, up to the point where the director omitted pictures and interviews, in greatest respect. ...Director: Werner Herzog, one of my top favorite film/documentary directors living today.

Since 1969 with the start of the communication control center of the Internet and up till today; this technological revolution has altered our entire planet and the way we live now and tomorrow. It is important to start from the beginning, and the last three chapters are better impacting, very.
We are disconnecting ourselves to connect with the new race who will take over. We are listening to sounds, to any form of communication many miles lights away in the universe with giant radio-dish telescopes... and we are observing millions miles away into space with giant powerful telescopes.

"The Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope is located in the state of West Virginia, nestled in the middle of the United States National Radio Quiet Zone — an area of limited or banned radio transmissions, which greatly helps the telescope in operating to its highest potential. The telescope, which was completed in 2002, took eleven years to construct. Equipped with its massive 328-foot (100 m) dish, this fully steerable telescope has made several notable discoveries, including the discovery of the hydrogen gas-based Ophiuchus “superbubble,” which is located 23,000 light years distant."

"Which brings the film to "The Future," the last of its 10 chapters. Observing that "all of science fiction missed the most important thing, the Internet," Herzog picks the film's assorted big brains about what lies ahead. Operating on the assumption that we have not yet left the digital dark ages, one seer predicts our imminent arrival at the time when we will be able to tweet thoughts; if so, can true mind reading be far behind? Will thoughts then be able to be read without the need for articulation? Will people still need people? "Who am I to say?" says one modest high-tech soul, suggesting that what lies just beyond the horizon line is truly not yet known."
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• http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/08/sundance-film-review-lo-and-behold/
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Yes, I can envision the day when we'll intercept communications from much more advanced civilizations of the universe. And they are probably doing the same...listening and looking @ us, just waiting to strike @ the right moment before we do it to them. If Man loves to conquer the world and the space above, you can be sure that other entities might be just doing the same. It's just a question of time when some sort of president/judge of the universe says enough is enough and decides to send his troops down here to invade our human race.

I think in the line of Stephen Hawking and other great scientists.

 

[skolis]

Or Oblivion.

Or:
Twilight Zone: To Serve Man
Independence Day: original and remake
Day the earth stood still - remake with keanu reeves - see esp. early scene with Kathy Bates, who pretty much
outlines the "Columbus" scenario, exactly.


"This guy is truly thinking ahead! "

So are alot of science fiction writers - - so this is not a new concept.
It's just gets more credence coming from Hawking.

 

[NorthStar]

Oh I didn't say he was alone. He's among millions of others who think even further ahead than him.
I agree with you; just because of who he is.

 

[wisnon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8