Maybe that too but for the most part the fungus, dirt, whatever is still there even after 4-5 cycles.
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Maybe that too but for the most part the fungus, dirt, whatever is still there even after 4-5 cycles.
david
Pcosta, do look at the Degritter thread I’ve started.
I’m absolutely thrilled w this machine, whether it’s coincidence or not w my newly optimised analog install, my vinyl has never sounds better.
I’m absolutely thrilled w this machine, whether it’s coincidence or not w my newly optimised analog install, my vinyl has never sounds better.
The one in my signature!
david
Keith Monks = Loricraft PRC4
the Loricraft is a less expensive version of the Keith Monks.
I've owned 3 Audio Desk RCM's, 2 Loricraft PRC4's, and 1 KL.
if you commonly buy nasty used records and need deep cleaning the Loricraft/Keith Monks is best. but requires lots more focused time, chemicals, and effort.
if you are cleaning or touching up already pretty clean records and like to listen and not futz then get a KL. you can listen and clean at the same time. I now only use this one. at one point I had all three of these together.
if you are a dice roller get an Audio Desk. it combines friction cleaning and ultrasonic. but it's got lots of moving parts. the newest ones are much more reliable.
Keith Monks. Mike has the same experience, flossers clean deeper and in my case I don't bother cleaning records that are eye clean unless there's surface noise.
david
I’ve directly compared my Loricraft v beta tester Degritter.
No contest, either dug in dirt, or superficial, the Degritter is best.
And not by a small margin.
No contest, either dug in dirt, or superficial, the Degritter is best.
And not by a small margin.
I've used LAST for many years and have noticed no ill effects. None. I've inspected the needle after playing. Nothing. That others have an issue is beyond me.
Steve, IF the original application of LAST was haphazardly applied, and way way too much of the LAST was used, I can easily see how the results that DDK report could accrue.
At least on paper the Degritter looks like the better widget than the ones I tried but I still believe that manual cleaning is the way to go with heavy soiled records.
david
I have to say for right or wrong, I am tempted to acquire one of these because it is so cheap at $850 AND because I can’t clean 7” and 10” on my existing Audio Desk.
If you have records that bad you probably need to add a little hepastat. If that still doesn't work you need something that can break down a biofilm. In that case you need enzymes with it. I am not certain where to buy enzymes on their own. Pomegranite juice would work but I don't know how problematic rinsing it and the sugars would be - I would test it first. I suspect if its easy to clean off then you could spread it on the disc and let it sit for a few minutes before cleaning with your iso, hepastat, & surfracant mix in the sonic machine.
Bill, too bad you didn’t get on board w the Degritter beta testing program, you’d have a machine that can do 7”, 10” and 12” discs for c£1k.
Yes, there are many of threads in audio forums with people expressing divergent opinions. Anyway LAST is now a product that is almost (or over, perhaps) forty years old, and its formulation has changed more than once since it was introduced - even by safety and ecological reasons. My experience dates from early 90's.
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