Silbatone preamplifier

dr k · Oct 25, 2017

So here is a very interesting company out of South Korea. They make some of the most expensive and innovative tube preamp, amp, and DACs. If I won the lottery, I'd go for there TOL line/phono preamp, the C-100.

BTW, it's only $100K. My second choice would be the L-101.
http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/refpre.html

Third choice would be the C-102.
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0202/silbatone.htm

Anyone have one?

bonzo75 · Oct 25, 2017

dr k said:
So here is a very interesting company out of South Korea. They make some of the most expensive and innovative tube preamp, amp, and DACs. If I won the lottery, I'd go for there TOL line/phono preamp, the C-100. BTW, it's only $100K. My second choice would be the L-101.
http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/refpre.html

Third choice would be the C-102.
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0202/silbatone.htm

Anyone have one?

No but go every year to Munich to spend time in their room.

dr k · Oct 25, 2017

bonzo75 said:
No but go every year to Munich to spend time in their room.

So how do their room sound?

bonzo75 · Oct 25, 2017

dr k said:
So how do their room sound?

Apart from 2016 it's been the best which is why i go every year to sit there and listen to some music. But large part are the big western electric horns these electronics drive, and the restored idlers by Schick and Schroeder

dr k · Oct 25, 2017

bonzo75 said:
Apart from 2016 it's been the best which is why i go every year to sit there and listen to some music. But large part are the big western electric horns these electronics drive, and the restored idlers by Schick and Schroeder

Great to hear! Did it sound better than your system? A properly setup Apogee speaker is some of the best sound I've ever heard. But a properly setup Apogee is rare.

bonzo75 · Oct 25, 2017

dr k said:
Great to hear! Did it sound better than your system? A properly setup Apogee speaker is some of the best sound I've ever heard. But a properly setup Apogee is rare.

Hi I don't have speakers now, plan to get apogee or horns when I get a new place. But to your question, yes a properly set up apogee is rare, best I have heard are Apogee grands in Holland, there is an excellent Duetta system in NY, a Scintilla system in Liechenstein. I have not heard the Full Range system close to you in Texas.

Does the Western Electric system exceed the Grands system? In some ways yes, in some ways no. Silbatone also has their own horns in that room, some models that cost 150 or 200k. Can these be bettered? Yes. Ideal system will retain the naturalness of of the WE sound with some crossovers from the modern high end sound, in of course a smaller size. Unfortunately this is best done by DIY horns, which means it is not an easy answer as you need to look around for someone under the radar who has designed a good DIY horn. And there are many c*ap ones.

awsmone · Oct 26, 2017

dr k said:
So here is a very interesting company out of South Korea. They make some of the most expensive and innovative tube preamp, amp, and DACs. If I won the lottery, I'd go for there TOL line/phono preamp, the C-100. BTW, it's only $100K. My second choice would be the L-101.
http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/refpre.html

Third choice would be the C-102.
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0202/silbatone.htm

Anyone have one?

Yes I have heard the Silbatone phono and pre and amps

Wonderful musical, detailed but in the aid of the music

Excellent timbre

Yes they are expensive but very advanced designs with magnificent build quality above esoteric

Their boosted 300b technology is fascinating and works

bonzo75 · Oct 26, 2017

What is boosted 300b tech? At Munich they play 300b and 300a, each valve costing around 10k USD

awsmone · Oct 26, 2017

They make two types of valve amps
Straight 45 or 300b

And a hybrid version which runs mosfets as a current source in parallel which boosts the current drive

A bit like current dumping

I heard these driving very difficult speaker loads and was very impressive

Means u can have a 300b which can drive difficult loads

853guy · Oct 26, 2017

awsmonw said:
bonzo75 said:

What is boosted 300b tech? At Munich they play 300b and 300a, each valve costing around 10k USD

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They make two types of valve amps
Straight 45 or 300b

And a hybrid version which runs mosfets as a current source in parallel which boosts the current drive

A bit like current dumping

I heard these driving very difficult speaker loads and was very impressive

Means u can have a 300b which can drive difficult loads

Hello gents,

In Munich they bi-amped the Mirrorphonics: the RP-300 Mk II for the mids and highs and a pair of RP30W hybrid monos for the two field-coil 4181a 18” drivers in W-cabs.

853guy

gian60 · Oct 26, 2017

I was interesting in integrated amp Reference 300 2 years ago and i asked price
They did price usd 75.000,then plus shipping,VAT and duty i stop to think about it

dr k · Oct 26, 2017

awsmone said:
Yes I have heard the Silbatone phono and pre and amps

Wonderful musical, detailed but in the aid of the music

Excellent timbre

Yes they are expensive but very advanced designs with magnificent build quality above esoteric

Their boosted 300b technology is fascinating and works

I'm jealous. Unfortunately I know of no one in the US who has Silbatone electronics.

dr k · Oct 26, 2017

bonzo75 said:
Hi I don't have speakers now, plan to get apogee or horns when I get a new place. But to your question, yes a properly set up apogee is rare, best I have heard are Apogee grands in Holland, there is an excellent Duetta system in NY, a Scintilla system in Liechenstein. I have not heard the Full Range system close to you in Texas.

Does the Western Electric system exceed the Grands system? In some ways yes, in some ways no. Silbatone also has their own horns in that room, some models that cost 150 or 200k. Can these be bettered? Yes. Ideal system will retain the naturalness of of the WE sound with some crossovers from the modern high end sound, in of course a smaller size. Unfortunately this is best done by DIY horns, which means it is not an easy answer as you need to look around for someone under the radar who has designed a good DIY horn. And there are many c*ap ones.

The best I've ever heard Apogee sound was the Duetta set up by the late Jason Bloom with Meitner solid state mono blocks and analogue turn table. It was over 30 years ago but still fresh in my aural memory. I've also heard the Full Range and Caliper and owned the Centaur Major and Stage, but have not heard Scintilla or Grand.

dr k · Oct 26, 2017

gian60 said:
I was interesting in integrated amp Reference 300 2 years ago and i asked price
They did price usd 75.000,then plus shipping,VAT and duty i stop to think about it

Kondo and Wavac territory. Hate to see what they're asking now.

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