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    Always interesting...but no opinion.
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    Well i ve finally given up on the fact that i can succesfully trade the market with naked options, the market is to unpredictable .
    But quit no , only optionstraddles from now on , hedge in place with maximum profit in the most volatile conditions, up or down it doesnt really matter .



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    Dow on Nov. 8th, 2016: 18,333
    Dow on Nov. 30th, 2017: 24,278

    That is an increase of 5,945 or 32% since the election. 25K by the 25th?
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    I am still 100% in, and I am still 100% uncertain as to what is going on, just like back in 2013, when I started this thread. It looks like that, similar to 2013, people are eager to invest after long periods of stagnation.
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    With all the QE and slow growth of the past 10 years money velocity fell through the floor. Any sign of animal spirits like those induced by tax cuts and a more business friendly regulatory environment points to inflation. I am not saying that's a totally bad thing especially when you are $20 trillion in the hole.
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    There’s obviously not a lot of rationality to that much of a gain (except for maybe the financial stocks with the deregulation happening), though corporate profits have been by-and-large good. I’m skeptical that the tax plan is good for the economy/ market, particularly as it will very likely diminish middle class buying power, if not now, then fairly soon. Particularly for those of us in blue states with typically higher state and property taxes. Further, the market has over the last several administrations done overall better under the Dems and policies that weren’t ‘trickle down’
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    Well i got some put contracts januari , gotta get a correction some time lol

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    Looks like rising rates finally sunk in , i think also that because Yellen. Is gone uncetainty hits the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pb Blimp View Post
    With all the QE and slow growth of the past 10 years money velocity fell through the floor. Any sign of animal spirits like those induced by tax cuts and a more business friendly regulatory environment points to inflation. I am not saying that's a totally bad thing especially when you are $20 trillion in the hole.
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    You can't send money velocity through the floor indefinitely without eventually inspiring economic activity which increases expected inflation which increases interest rates which increases discount rates which reduces the present value of corporate cash flow which equals stock prices.
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    Is this a fourth wave with this leg D and E to follow? Or we have a historical top in place. I think this is wave D..but it would not surprise me if it tops here. This white hat vs black hat civil war could get nasty.
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