Where can you mount which size arms on the AF3P?

BillK

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I've looked at the Kuzma 4Point9 but would prefer the 4 Point 11" because of the VTA tower.

However I was told that the right rear armboard mount on the 3P couldn't accommodate anything longer than 9", it would have to be mounted in the left rear, but I've seen a photo of a Graham Elite 12" armwand mounted in the right rear position.

What's the truth on what arm can go where? TechDAS doesn't post manuals online, and I'm not sure it's even covered there.
 

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Gian has graham phantom elite, SAT, and triplanar on AF3 p
 

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IME/IMHO any length, anywhere. as long as you have appropriate armboards.
 
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I've looked at the Kuzma 4Point9 but would prefer the 4 Point 11" because of the VTA tower.

However I was told that the right rear armboard mount on the 3P couldn't accommodate anything longer than 9", it would have to be mounted in the left rear, but I've seen a photo of a Graham Elite 12" armwand mounted in the right rear position.

What's the truth on what arm can go where? TechDAS doesn't post manuals online, and I'm not sure it's even covered there.
The 4point 11 was designed to be mounted on 9" arm boards.
 
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I have the Kuzma 4P (11), Glanz 124 HS (12") and SME 3012 R (12") on my AFVP. I'm not sure I can get another 12" arm on the remaining mount - but a 9 or 10" arm for sure. So to answer your question - no limitations for arms up to 12" - I'd inquire directly w TechDas for longer arms. The Kuzma 14 should be fine as well due to its shorter (comparatively) mounting distance.


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I have the Kuzma 4P (11), Glanz 124 HS (12") and SME 3012 R (12") on my AFVP. I'm not sure I can get another 12" arm on the remaining mount - but a 9 or 10" arm for sure. So to answer your question - no limitations for arms up to 12" - I'd inquire directly w TechDas for longer arms. The Kuzma 14 should be fine as well due to its shorter (comparatively) mounting distance.

Which do you like the most?

For various reasons I'm trying to shy away from the Graham Phantom Elite.
 

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I've looked at the Kuzma 4Point9 but would prefer the 4 Point 11" because of the VTA tower.

However I was told that the right rear armboard mount on the 3P couldn't accommodate anything longer than 9", it would have to be mounted in the left rear, but I've seen a photo of a Graham Elite 12" armwand mounted in the right rear position.

What's the truth on what arm can go where? TechDAS doesn't post manuals online, and I'm not sure it's even covered there.
Not true. An AFIII can accept the John Holmes special (14'") on the front right mount or anywhere else, it's a function of the arm board used not the arm length.
 
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I've been using the Gold Note Tuscany, Musikraft shell w MR tipped 103R, and the ZYX Universe II - a mix of low/medium compliance carts. Some additional details re the arms:

Kumza 4P - Cardas wiring
SME 3012R - NOS w original tonearm cable, currently using Glanz headshell
Glanz 124 HS - rewired by Analog Magik w silver single run cable and Arche UL headshell

While all three arms are great performers, it seemed to me that the Glanz would extract finer details from the records. The improvement was incremental, but nonetheless, it became my favorite arm. All three carts were rotated and the ZYX sounded the best on the Glanz. I will have to say that initially, I thought the ZYX was an okay cart, but when I got the SUT from Dave, it just opened up amazingly and I finally realized how good this cart was. Even though the Tuscany is a more expensive cart, the ZYX is more dynamic - sounds natural and perfectly balanced.

The SME 3012R is also a great tonearm - I know its preferred by many here. I currently have the Tuscany on it - at an output voltage of 0.25 mV, it's not as dynamic, but still sounds pretty good. When I had the ZYX on the SME, it sounded good, but not on the same level as the Glanz. I can use both the ZYX and Tuscany with the SUT due to its low impedance.

The Musikraft shell with the Denon 103 R (retipped w MR) is on the Kuzma for now. At a weight of ~22 gm, the Kuzma surprisingly handles it well - however, I cannot use w the SUT due to its higher impedance. Before I got the SUT and the Glanz, I was almost convinced that the Musikraft/Denon cart with the Kuzma 4P was the way to go – it sounded pretty good at the time. The ZYX sounded decent on this arm as well - but again, not at the level of the Glanz. The Cardas wiring helps.

Anyways, can’t go wrong with any of these three arms. BTW, my phonostage is the ARC Ref 2SE.
 

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