TAS Super LP list- where's the new music?

treitz3

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Agreed.

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Excellent observation Keith--+1--anyone that includes that Digital Stinker of Ry's gets my thumbs down.

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You have a great point. But obviously what we really need in studios and engineers worth a damn working on the new music. The artist are around but either can't afford or understand what cutting an album that sounds worth a damn is even like.
 

KeithR

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You have a great point. But obviously what we really need in studios and engineers worth a damn working on the new music.
I think it might be changing- a lot of "bedroom" rock/electronica sounds better than the average brick-walled stuff. But its not like Boston from the 70s is great production or recording either. Check out new Bedouine - I think its pretty well done.

In general, i think audiophiles are less interested about new music because they like to listen to what they grew up on. That's fine, but not particularly enticing to new peeps....who don't even know or read Harry Pearson. It's one reason I make a point to bring "fresh" music to audio shows.
 

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I don't think finding exceptional sonics in abundance has been easy for as long as I can remember, heck probably for longer than I've been alive. Needles in haystack cliches time. I had some success in Japan by accident. Tower (yes it lives!) has a Stereo Sound shelf where the mag's annual winners are put together. I enjoyed the fruits of their curating efforts. Maybe if the Grammys upped the weight of technical excellence in their selection process, production values would go up across the board. I'm not holding my breath, I think Skrillex won a grammy for crying out loud, but I can dream.
 

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I think it might be changing- a lot of "bedroom" rock/electronica sounds better than the average brick-walled stuff. But its not like Boston from the 70s is great production or recording either. Check out new Bedouine - I think its pretty well done.

In general, i think audiophiles are less interested about new music because they like to listen to what they grew up on. That's fine, but not particularly enticing to new peeps....who don't even know or read Harry Pearson. It's one reason I make a point to bring "fresh" music to audio shows.
Audiophiles grew up on classical? I know a lot of the guys on the forum are old but...
 

treitz3

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What do you think we listened to when we were all watching Warner Brothers and Loony Tunes cartoons? Of course we grew up with Classical. :D

Tom
 

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There is great sound and there is great music and thankfully for us sometimes there is both.

It's cool that there is some great music on the list but no matter how great something sounds I find that if the music doesn't have meaning for me then it's just not going to be a deep connection.

That we can all potentially find meaning in music other than the music of our time just relates to the fact that great music can be timeless and it can effect a great range of people.

But whether or not great sound is a part of the future or not is only really going to be important to some of us.

If you love music and don't want to get stuck in the unhappy rut of only playing audiophilia music menus like this one you need to have access to a system that also makes listening to less than ideal sonics still engaging... musically engaging.

It's a great argument for having two systems... a less critical, less demanding sonically but musically satisfying setup in a shared space like the living room with more lives and often more live sound and music and then a dedicated listening space in a slightly more dead room listening to some more of this dead music that then allows you to max out on sonics and also still listen to music in a perhaps more directly focussed and sometimes more critical way.

That's when a list like this can still be cool so you can pick music you love and get the added connection of more life like experience of great recordings or just a bit of the occasional guilty sonic thrill but I do find music that you don't connect with tends to be something you play once and then are unlikely to revisit. This is where improving sonics in streaming is a godsend. You can listen once and then never listen again in a completely guilt free way.

While I rarely listen to the unlistenable in either music or sound, music and performance always ultimately trumps sonics in recording in the end for me just because this isn't an intellectual thing really and my body just isn't as naturally hypercritical as when going through a focussed phase of expectations of perception when listening, analysing and learning how to put together sonically a good system. But this becomes a lesser part of time spent the further you go along.

If the music your gear makes you play is hollow for you then it's just an empty village that you are passing through. The AS list is a testing thing with some great music and some of them are even great performances but only a handful would be in my all time favourites in music terms and even less would be packed in the bag for any long term desert island destiny. But we all choose our own poisons when we drink from the chalice.
 

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There's tons of great, well recorded music out there. Unfortunately, the high end press tends to have a rather limited musical palate. Just this decade:

2010
Great Jazz Trio - Hank Jones' Last Recording
Tom Jones - Praise & Blame
Los Lobos - Tin Can Trust
Menomena - Mines
Mimicking Birds
Trentmoller - Into The Great Wide Open

2011
Danger Mouse & Daniel Luppi - Rome
Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost
Head & The Heart

2012
Amadou & Mariam - Folia
Black Prairie - A Tear in the Eye is a Hole in the Heart
Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan
Dave Douglas - Be Still
Vijay Iyer - Accelerando
Jamey Johnson - Living for a Song
Shearwater - Animal Joy
Geoffrey Williams - Yes Is The Answer

2013
Katatonia - Dethroned & Uncrowned
Mark Lanegan - Imitations
Los Lobos - Disconnected in New York
Kacey Musgraves - Same Trailer, Different Park
Omaha Diner
Rhye - Woman
Wolf People - Fain

2014
Leonard Cohen - Popular Problems
Seu Jorge - The Life Aquatic Studio Sessions
Stanton Moore - Conversations
Opeth - Pale Communion
Spoon - They Want My Soul

2015
Balthazar - Thin Walls
Eilen Jewell - Sundown Over Ghost Town
Rudresh Mahanthappa - Bird Calls

2016
The Bad Plus - It's Hard
Blood Orange - Freetown Sound
CloZee - Revolution
Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker
Brad Mehldau - Blues and Ballads
 
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treitz3

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There's tons of great, well recorded music out there. Unfortunately, the high end press tends to have a rather limited musical palate. Just this decade:

2010
Great Jazz Trio - Hank Jones' Last Recording
Tom Jones - Praise & Blame
Los Lobos - Tin Can Trust
Menomena - Mines
Mimicking Birds
Trentmoller - Into The Great Wide Open

2011
Danger Mouse & Daniel Luppi - Rome
Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost
Head & The Heart

2012
Amadou & Mariam - Folia
Black Prairie - A Tear in the Eye is a Hole in the Heart
Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan
Dave Douglas - Be Still
Vijay Iyer - Accelerando
Jamey Johnson - Living for a Song
Shearwater - Animal Joy
Geoffrey Williams - Yes Is The Answer

2013
Katatonia - Dethroned & Uncrowned
Mark Lanegan - Imitations
Los Lobos - Disconnected in New York
Kacey Musgraves - Same Trailer, Different Park
Omaha Diner
Rhye - Woman
Wolf People - Fain

2014
Leonard Cohen - Popular Problems
Seu Jorge - The Life Aquatic Studio Sessions
Stanton Moore - Conversations
Opeth - Pale Communion
Spoon - They Want My Soul

2015
Balthazar - Thin Walls
Eilen Jewell - Sundown Over Ghost Town
Rudresh Mahanthappa - Bird

2016
The Bad Plus - It's Hard
Blood Orange - Freetown Sound
CloZee - Revolution
Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker
Brad Mehldau - Blues and Ballads
You made this list....I must wonder if you made it from what you would WANT to listen to or if it's from another list.

Which is it?

If you made said list from your own selections? Kudos to you and shall we be ever in your debt.

Do tell.

Tom
 

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Ha! I played a track off that Tom Jones album at the LA Show, and everybody was wondering who it was :)
It is indeed a great recording, and a great album as well!


cheers,
alex
 

jazdoc

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You made this list....I must wonder if you made it from what you would WANT to listen to or if it's from another list.

Which is it?

If you made said list from your own selections? Kudos to you and shall we be ever in your debt.

Do tell.

Tom
Personal list of vinyl I own and enjoy.
 
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