Tannoy owners

bonzo75

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Blame Montesquieu

Who are the Tannoy owners here, and what drivers do you have? Anyone with Black, Silver, Reds?

15 inch Monitor Golds?

HPD 385 and 315?

etc

What amps and analog?

Ta
 

mulveling

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No experience with the vintage series - since that's all you listed, are you interested only/primarily in those? I've owned 5 pairs of modern Tannoys, and heard more models at my dealer and elsewhere. Currently own Canterbury GR with the new 15" alnico, and they are superb; best Tannoy sound I've heard so far. The Kingdom Royals are very technical and very very good at that, but I haven't yet been emotionally swayed or drawn into the sound with them like with Canterbury GR. Probably didn't help that the KR's were sourced by either Esoteric digital or Ortofon Anna (which might as well be digital), when I favor a more romantic analog sound.

I use Rogue Apollo Dark monoblocks, lots of tube power 275+ Watts. ARC REF 6 preamp though I'm keeping an eye out for something just a hair more relaxed up top, ideally with a midrange like VAC but can still rock out. No digital source. Fidelity Research FR64S and Koetsu Coralstone, with a Blue Lace Diamond coming. Extremely lifelike, yet beautiful sound. It's all come together since the 64S, Coralstrone, and EAR SUT got teamed up - what a difference!
 
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Tannoy Arden Mk II speakers. They have the ceramic 3828 drivers.
Driving them with a single Technics SE-9060 power amp.
Small room, sounds good.

Also have a set of small-cabinet Chertsey (Surrey-series) speakers with 3128 drivers. They're in my living room being driven by a random Pioneer amp. Also have a set Tannoy 615s for my home theatre setup, driven by a random Kenwood amp. Assorted other smaller Tannoys as well...
 

jespera

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15” monitor golds in retangular york (awesome).

10” monitor golds in ported 3lz (very good).

Single 15” silver in corner grf (not living up to hopes and expectations — may be the crossover that has gone bad).

Used to own a pair of westminster royal se but they were completely outclassed by the vintage speakers.
Generally, the other new old tannoys (prestige series) that i have heard dont do much for me. Big scale but slow and muddled.

Be careful the quality of vintage drivers and xovers can vary a lot.

Amps: radford sta 25 (great), leben cs300 (ok).
Analogue: garrard 301, ptp lenco 9+12, 2xlenco l70. See the rest in my profile.

Jesper
 

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bonzo75

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Hi Jesper, one of the best rock, blues and jazz I heard was on tannoy 15' golds in Lockwood cabinets with modded crossovers and Luxman integrated. We listened for 8 hours with zero fatigue.

A couple of friends had the Radford STA 25 on their tannoys (one Gold 12 and the other HPD 315a) in modded York cabs. The Radford 25 was better than the Radford 100. However it was easily outclassed by the Silvercore 833c at 20w that replaced it, and also the KR.

That said, tannoy gold 15 is a speaker I am keenly looking at, and also looking at Altecs now.

I don't like the modern tannoys, though do have sufficient exposure to the Westminster models.
 
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jespera

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Hi Jesper, one of the best rock, blues and jazz I heard was on tannoy 15' golds in Lockwood cabinets with modded crossovers and Luxman integrated. We listened for 8 hours with zero fatigue.

A couple of friends had the Radford STA 25 on their tannoys (one Gold 12 and the other HPD 315a) in modded York cabs. The Radford 25 was better than the Radford 100. However it was easily outclassed by the Silvercore 833c at 20w that replaced it, and also the KR.

That said, tannoy gold 15 is a speaker I am keenly looking at, and also looking at Altecs now.

I don't like the modern tannoys, though do have sufficient exposure to the Westminster models.
Ive listened to mine for 5 years without any fatigue ;-) but I also tend to stay away from synthetic music.

The radford is a classic. Original mullard valves give punch and an octal valve pre sweetens the sound.
For driving tannoys you'll have to search wide and dig deep in your pocket for something better.

Is this your friend ?

https://theartofsound.net/forum/sho...lvercore-833C-monoblocks-not-your-typical-SET
 

bonzo75

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Ive listened to mine for 5 years without any fatigue ;-) but I also tend to stay away from synthetic music.

The radford is a classic. Original mullard valves give punch and an octal valve pre sweetens the sound.
For driving tannoys you'll have to search wide and dig deep in your pocket for something better.

Is this your friend ?

https://theartofsound.net/forum/sho...lvercore-833C-monoblocks-not-your-typical-SET
Hi yes that's him, he is on this forum as well though quieter
 
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Btw, some people say that push-pull 300b's (or other triodes) work well with tannoys.
But I have not heard it myself...

Jesper
Hi, I'm the chap Kedar referred to earlier.

I've tried literally dozens of amps (around 40 at last count) with Tannoys, having owned quite a few different set of tannoys in many different cabinets, including 12in and 15in Golds and 12in and 15in HPDs. I've heard many modern Tannoys as well, though prefer the vintage ones, properly executed.

300b push-pull can work ok for Golds but you have to be careful of high output impedance which is often an issue with 300b designs. At one point I had four Audion 300b monoblocks running 15in Golds, used both active and passive with a split crossover. Generally speaking I found pentode amps worked best (has a few of those as well, the better ones were the Radfords above and some Jadis monoblocks). I wouldn't use them with HPDs which need more grunt to work properly compared to Golds. With all these vintage Tannoys you are balancing the need to have a decent of damping factor to keep the big cones under control, without going overboard and sucking the life out of them.

Different people have their view on Tannoys, having owned them for almost a decade I totally get the romantic appeal of 15in Golds and they do most things beautifully, but I concluded having owned both Golds and HPDs simultaneously that ultimately more of just about everything can be got from 12in HPDs. (15 HPDs have the down sides of 15in Golds - all mainly the consequence of a fairly high crossover point for such a large cone - but without that sweetness which is the Golds' big plus point). I consider the essential choice to be between 15in Golds and 12in HPDs - HPDs need more power but in the right cab go just as deep as 15in Golds, and being 12in rather than 15in suffer fewer woes around the crossover point. But I don't really argue the point - its mainly a personal preference. HPDs were the final point in the evolution of the Monitor series going back to Black and Silver iterations - in my view Tannoy never again made a driver that was quite so successful in a musical sense.

The Silvercores have shaken a lot of what I thought I knew but I've taken a decision not to ask too many questions and just enjoy them. There must be something in their design that provides the neccessary control as the bass control, depth and overall quality on them is exceptional for single ended amps.
 

jespera

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Hi, I'm the chap Kedar referred to earlier.

I've tried literally dozens of amps (around 40 at last count) with Tannoys, having owned quite a few different set of tannoys in many different cabinets, including 12in and 15in Golds and 12in and 15in HPDs. I've heard many modern Tannoys as well, though prefer the vintage ones, properly executed.

300b push-pull can work ok for Golds but you have to be careful of high output impedance which is often an issue with 300b designs. At one point I had four Audion 300b monoblocks running 15in Golds, used both active and passive with a split crossover. Generally speaking I found pentode amps worked best (has a few of those as well, the better ones were the Radfords above and some Jadis monoblocks). I wouldn't use them with HPDs which need more grunt to work properly compared to Golds. With all these vintage Tannoys you are balancing the need to have a decent of damping factor to keep the big cones under control, without going overboard and sucking the life out of them.

Different people have their view on Tannoys, having owned them for almost a decade I totally get the romantic appeal of 15in Golds and they do most things beautifully, but I concluded having owned both Golds and HPDs simultaneously that ultimately more of just about everything can be got from 12in HPDs. (15 HPDs have the down sides of 15in Golds - all mainly the consequence of a fairly high crossover point for such a large cone - but without that sweetness which is the Golds' big plus point). I consider the essential choice to be between 15in Golds and 12in HPDs - HPDs need more power but in the right cab go just as deep as 15in Golds, and being 12in rather than 15in suffer fewer woes around the crossover point. But I don't really argue the point - its mainly a personal preference. HPDs were the final point in the evolution of the Monitor series going back to Black and Silver iterations - in my view Tannoy never again made a driver that was quite so successful in a musical sense.

The Silvercores have shaken a lot of what I thought I knew but I've taken a decision not to ask too many questions and just enjoy them. There must be something in their design that provides the neccessary control as the bass control, depth and overall quality on them is exceptional for single ended amps.
Your extensive experiences noted and appreciated.

When I compare my 10" vs 15" golds, the 10" actually have a clearer midrange and let through more detail. More hifi.
But the 15" have a certain authority that just makes you "forget-about-it". It's like comparing a 4 cylinder engine to a V8.
This authority has more to do with transient response than bass extension -- I think.

Jesper
 

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Your extensive experiences noted and appreciated.

When I compare my 10" vs 15" golds, the 10" actually have a clearer midrange and let through more detail. More hifi.
But the 15" have a certain authority that just makes you "forget-about-it". It's like comparing a 4 cylinder engine to a V8.
This authority has more to do with transient response than bass extension -- I think.

Jesper
Tom always advised 15 inch Golds or 12 inch HPDs. The 15 inch HPD apparently does not have a good crossover point to mod.

15 inch golds seem to be better for rock and blues. I would love to hear them with silvercores as currently Tom's Silvercore HPD 12 plays classical better.
 
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Tom always advised 15 inch Golds or 12 inch HPDs. The 15 inch HPD apparently does not have a good crossover point to mod.

15 inch golds seem to be better for rock and blues. I would love to hear them with silvercores as currently Tom's Silvercore HPD 12 plays classical better.
The challenge with any 15in Tannoy for classical is that the crossover point is something around 1.2khz ... that means you are crossing over two octaves above middle C or right around the top of the soprano range - this is a lot to ask such a large cone to do. To their credit, Tannoys do generally pull this off this pretty well but the 10in or 12in cone handles those high notes a bit more comfortably. The 15in driver does have more impact there's no denying that but the 12in HPD comes close, and it also goes just as low as the 15in Gold (albeit it needs a shade more power to do achieve this). It's all compromise though and while the 12in HPD is my favourite especially as a big Lieder and chamber music listener majoring on tone/timbre and expression, I can easily see though why the 15in Gold's greater impact would be another person's choice, perhaps for rock music, big orchestras or if they were less of a listener to vocal music.

Though it's easy to get hung up on the differences. 12in Tannoys in the right cabinets can have plenty of impact just as 15in Tannoys can certainly do expression - the commonalities are far greater than the distinctions between them.
 

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