Pass Labs X 260.8 and XP 10. What loudspeaker

Heidrun

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Hello.
I am in despair here.
Here in Norway there are no-one that sells Pass Labs, and i want to buy the Pass Labs X 260.8 mono block and XP 10 Pre. But i am thinking. What loudspeaker should i go for. Because to buy without listening is not my first thought.
So i am thing. What about Focal Sopra n2, Dynaudio Contour 30, B&W 803 D3 or maybe Martin Logan electrostat.
What i look for in a sound is open and airy sound with dynamic sound and rytmic behavior. But dynamic is the most important thing here. And of course a good sound on low volume. Because i have been listen to many loudspeakers that ar doll on low volume. The loudspeaker cant be in a way that i have to sit in the sweet spot all the time. Sop the loudspeakers need to deliver music to the whole room.
Hope you understand my meaning here

Best wishes from
Haakon
Norway
 

LL21

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I have heard good things about Pass with a variety of speakers including ML and Wilsons. if you are looking for dynamics, Wilsons do well here. In regards to being able to listen at low volume, in my experience in addition to your equipment...you could very find significant benefits in ensuring you lower the noise floor of your system as much as possible:
- good quality power
- good isolation
- good signal grounding (Tripoint/Entreq)
- look to reduce/shield EMI/RFI...Entreq again

In my system, the lowered noise floor has dramatically improved our ability to listen at very, very low volumes (1 on the volume knob) and not feel at 2am like we are missing any details. That took 3 years to do as we did each of the above one at a time, but it really has made a huge difference.
 
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Haakon, have you considered the new Pass XP-12 pre, which is the follow-on to the XP-10 and is now available? US list price is approximately 10% higher than the X-10.
 
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Haakon, one other suggestion to consider based on positive reviews and user comments on the net: the Pass X350.8 stereo amp, which is at about the same price point as the X260.8 monos. If you have questions about Pass product selection and speaker matching, I have found Kent English at Pass to be very candid and helpful.
 

MtnHam

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Hello.

What i look for in a sound is open and airy sound with dynamic sound and rytmic behavior. But dynamic is the most important thing here. And of course a good sound on low volume. Because i have been listening to many loudspeakers that are dull on low volume. The loudspeaker cant be in a way that i have to sit in the sweet spot all the time. So the loudspeakers need to deliver music to the whole room.
I drive my Sound Lab Ultimate U-1PX electrostatic speakers with Pass Lab X-260.8 mono block amps. The sound is fantastic and IMHO exactly what you seem to desire. While my preamp is not from Pass Lab, I have no doubt the XP-10 would be excellent as well. I highly recommend you contact Mark at Reno Hi-Fi (www.renohifi.com), a major Pass Lab dealer (no affiliation to me) who would probably be happy to ship to Norway. If you are interested in Sound Labs, please contact me via a PM. They will surpass Martin Logan speakers in every way, energizing all the air, even in a very large room, with full spectrum sound anywhere in the room, with the "sweet spot" being desirable only for optimal imaging. Unlike ML speakers, there is no "beaming." And, being single driver, there is total coherence.
 
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joeinid

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Hi Tom and Dave,

Re: the X260.8, do you find because of the higher Class A output, 34wpc vs 17wpc typically for other X amps, that the sound is warmer/sweeter from your amps?
 

MtnHam

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Hi Tom and Dave,

Re: the X260.8, do you find because of the higher Class A output, 34wpc vs 17wpc typically for other X amps, that the sound is warmer/sweeter from your amps?
The X series of Pass Labs are Class A/B, and thus have the full 260 watts available when needed. But they remain in Class A almost all the time except on high peak demand. Sound Lab speakers, being a reactive load, are a difficult load for many amps, but the X-260.8 amps handle them with aplomb, and are firmly in command. I have owned many other amps over the years, all driving Sound Labs, and the Pass amps surpass anything else I have tried, including the much more expensive Ayre MXR Twenties they replaced. The MXR's are rated at 300wpc, but seemed to run out of power at times. Mark at Reno HiFi recommend the X260.8's over the pure Class A models for that very reason. "Warmer/sweater," perhaps; I have not compared them to other Pass Lab amps.
 
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joeinid

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Tom,

Thank you very much. I'm sure Sound Labs and Pass is a superb combo. I'm so happy you love the amps.
 

mikey8811

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Hello.
I am in despair here.
Here in Norway there are no-one that sells Pass Labs, and i want to buy the Pass Labs X 260.8 mono block and XP 10 Pre. But i am thinking. What loudspeaker should i go for. Because to buy without listening is not my first thought.
So i am thing. What about Focal Sopra n2, Dynaudio Contour 30, B&W 803 D3 or maybe Martin Logan electrostat.
What i look for in a sound is open and airy sound with dynamic sound and rytmic behavior. But dynamic is the most important thing here. And of course a good sound on low volume. Because i have been listen to many loudspeakers that ar doll on low volume. The loudspeaker cant be in a way that i have to sit in the sweet spot all the time. Sop the loudspeakers need to deliver music to the whole room.
Hope you understand my meaning here

Best wishes from
Haakon
Norway
I would think Pass works well with any of the speakers you have listed. From my own experience, they are a good match with Dynaudio's, the Contour series you mention.
 
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I would think Pass works well with any of the speakers you have listed. From my own experience, they are a good match with Dynaudio's, the Contour series you mention.
again....agreed, but for the life of me why would you select an amp ahead of your speaker ?
 

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