Open Back Headphones

EDLIU

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I'm looking for 2017 or 2018 released, 500USD to 1,500USD, Open Back Headphones that are good for listening to both "Classic(mostly) and Rock Music(sometimes)".

I googled the web, and have a few questions:

How are Audeze and Sennheiser Open Back Headphones?

What are the pros and cons of Audeze and Sennheiser Open Back Headphones?

The Sennheiser HD660s, has anyone tried it yet? What do you think about the headphone? One problem about the Sennheiser HD660 Headphone is that it uses Hi-Res, and my iPhone and MacBook Pro do not support Hi-Res(and they are still using 3.5mm Jacks).

I've been waiting for the new releases of the Audeze Open Back Headphones, but the LCD2 is Closed Back Headphone.

What do you think? Any piece of advice is appreciated.

Thanks.
 

Folsom

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You need a matching amp for whatever you get. All of those review well. I think the LCD's are rather appealing.
 

Lee

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In this range, I really like the Audeze MX4 and the Grado PS500 for open back headphones. I would also look at the Hifiman Sundara headphones.

If you like a warmer sound, the LCD 2C from Audeze are excellent.
 

LL21

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Great thread...you might find this interesting reading if you haven't already seen it. Check out their comment on the Wall of Fame Focal Open-backed headphones for $1499 which is in your stated target range:

https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-over-ear-open

"For the first time I can unreservedly recommend a $1000+ headphone. If you've cautiously made the headphone enthusiast approved treck from a Koss Porta Pro to the Sennheiser HD 600/650, and have found your carefully protected wallet stuck there without a sure fire step up, now you have it. Even if it's a financial stretch, the Focal Clear is worth the struggle for an end-game headphone. That's not a recommendation I make lightly.
Read more at https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-over-ear-open#6xtjm8G5ECwR3ZQq.99"
 

EDLIU

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If you like a warmer sound, the LCD 2C from Audeze are excellent.
I read some Audeze LCD 2 Classic(Open Back) reviews, and they say the LCD 2C is better with contemporary popular music. Is a rock and pop headphone.

Thanks.
 

Gregadd

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Ambient sound is a euphemism for open back.
 

EDLIU

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Should I try to get a Neutral Headphone? Since I listen to Classic(mostly) and Rock Music(sometimes).

Thanks.
 

EDLIU

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I was reading Sennheiser HD 820 reviews.

I do not understand the following parts...

1.Sennheiser doesn’t give these cans the mid-bass bump that practically everyone else employs, and instead promotes the upper mids to be more prominent. The treble is expertly handled, and the bass extends super deep, even if it is lean. The dynamic range of these headphones is ridiculous, and you’ll hear both the highest and lowest, most subterranean notes in any recording.

2.(Sennheiser HD 820)their elevated mids mostly neutralize any sense of added low-end punch.

Aren't those good for a headphone?

Thanks.
 
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Just to throw another name into the mix, I'm really enjoying my HiFiMan Ananda and they are superior to the HiFiMan HEX V2, at about $300 less, that just failed on me.

The talk about a 8Khz bump is not apparent to me but they sure are clear, balanced and airy. The HEX sound thick and heavier by comparison.

They're very close to the much pricier HEK imo and don't need a dedicated headamp to get the best out of them. And very comfortable too.
 
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The HD800 is still the best all around headphone. The HD800S model fixes a 6 kHz peak that was present in the venerable original HD800. Many of us have performed a simple modification to our original HD800 to do the same. But all headphones are an exercise for the listener in being able to overlook fairly significant tradeoffs. They are always "pick your poison". For a while I had a pair of Focal Utopia headphones, and for all they did well, still suffered from a few fatal flaws. Most notably a treble coloration from the Beryllium drivers. And this to me was unacceptable at $4K MSRP (I paid significantly less)... Bass is a weak point for almost all headphones, save for the Hifiman HE6, which then has other tradeoffs. I've gone round and round on the headphone merry-go-round and ended back basically where I started ... at the HD800. Overall, its definitely not perfect but its tradeoffs are the most reasonable. So instead of trying to find a truly better all around "can", I simply listen to speakers more often than not.
 

UEM

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Edliu,

MrSpeakers ETHER Flow

https://thepcenthusiast.com/mrspeakers-ether-flow-review/

(or the older "normal" model, as second hand, which I have) is worth considering.
It’s one of the few open headphones in the “still reasonably priced range” :rolleyes: (?!?!), that I use in addition to my Electrostatic STAX phones.
And they are very comfy to wear..!


Regards

Urs

BTW: the Senni 820 is closed back and suffers all those associated problems of a closed back – even though I admit it belongs to the better ones in this group.
 

Gregadd

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I was reading Sennheiser HD 820 reviews.

I do not understand the following parts...

1.Sennheiser doesn’t give these cans the mid-bass bump that practically everyone else employs, and instead promotes the upper mids to be more prominent. The treble is expertly handled, and the bass extends super deep, even if it is lean. The dynamic range of these headphones is ridiculous, and you’ll hear both the highest and lowest, most subterranean notes in any recording.

2.(Sennheiser HD 820)their elevated mids mostly neutralize any sense of added low-end punch.

Aren't those good for a headphone?

Thanks.
Depends on your point of view or preference. Headphones are notoriously week or absent of low bass for obvious reasons. This also happens in mini-monitors. Adding a rise in the frequency response in the low regions can give a sense of greater bass. It is of course not "neutral" or "flat."
If you are, for instance, a hard rocker that absence of bass can be a real downer. OTOH For other types of music it nay be annoying.
 

EDLIU

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For a while I had a pair of Focal Utopia headphones, and for all they did well, still suffered from a few fatal flaws. Most notably a treble coloration from the Beryllium drivers. And this to me was unacceptable at $4K MSRP (I paid significantly less)...
What do you think of the Utopia Headphone and the brand Focal? I googled, and it only said that Focal is a French brand.

Thanks.
 

EDLIU

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Depends on your point of view or preference.
"I'm looking for 2017 or 2018 released, 500USD to 1,500USD, Open Back Headphones that are good for listening to both "Classic(mostly) and Rock Music(sometimes)"."

Are there any brands and models that you'd recommend?

Thanks.
 

UEM

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What do you think of the Utopia Headphone and the brand Focal? I googled, and it only said that Focal is a French brand.

Thanks.

Edliu,

If you can get a Focal Utopia in your price range, go for it (New I think they are around 4000- Dollars / Euros or so:(:rolleyes:)

FOCAL is indeed a French speaker company, associated with NAIM and they enjoy a very good reputation over here in Europe.
The Utopia phones especially are also rated very highly...but so they should for this money... ;)

Very important for such phones : a dedicated top HP- amp ! (otherwise it may be a waste of money)

Regards

Urs
 

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