LA or OC?

[Believe High Fidelity]

http://www.stereophile.com/content/...ornia-2017#comment-561121#QpRydsegvgXuwJyP.97

So the full details are out. Who is going to which show for 2017?

 

[KeithR]

What can you tell me about the hotel that is special?

It's gorgeous and fresh. You'll be amazed! Key members of the LAOCAS and LAAS who believe this venue to be the premiere place for this kind of trade show will offer a tour exclusively for you and other members of the Press alike to review the facilities sometime this year.

Read more at http://www.stereophile.com/content/two-shows-southern-california-2017#p0V9tgUSVgxMsBCP.99

Very encouraging news. $35mm hotel renovation is no joke.

 

[Kingsrule]

2 area shows is a joke
Manufacturers are showed out and will hate this.....

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

I always wanted to go to RMAF but have doubts due to recent postings here, and that's a shame.

My belief is that both California shows are going to suffer due to their insanely close dates conflicting with Munich and RMAF and that is a bigger shame.
The transportation time lines and wear and tear on personnel will be evident.

So my guess is that the LAAS will come out on top one because of Bob and his 2100+ cronies but also that its is close to RMAF but doable for equipment transport time window versus the time line with T.H.E. Show being so close to Munich and the logistics that come with it.

We shall have to see as time moves on and the commitments unfold.

 

[Steve Williams]

I always wanted to go to RMAF but have doubts due to recent postings here, and that's a shame.

My belief is that both California shows are going to suffer due to their insanely close dates conflicting with Munich and RMAF and that is a bigger shame.
The transportation time lines and wear and tear on personnel will be evident.

So my guess is that the LAAS will come out on top one because of Bob and his 2100+ cronies but also that its is close to RMAF but doable for equipment transport time window versus the time line with T.H.E. Show being so close to Munich and the logistics that come with it.

We shall have to see as time moves on and the commitments unfold.

I agree.Unless THE Show Anaheim reinvents itself it will almost certainly fade or be forced to look at other dates

 

[Ron Resnick]

I agree.Unless THE Show Anaheim reinvents itself it will almost certainly fade or be forced to look at other dates

+1

It seems that the LAAS is likely to be the winner.

 

[asiufy]

If that's so, it's very unfortunate, as the dates for THE Show are much better (Sept rather than June).

 

[Leif S]

http://www.stereophile.com/content/...ornia-2017#comment-561121#QpRydsegvgXuwJyP.97

So the full details are out. Who is going to which show for 2017?

If I had to take a guess, I think the LA show works out better for us for timing. I don't think we will do both shows. What would be the point doing 2 shows so close in location.

 

[rbbert]

For me, neither of the Southern California shows appear very appealing. Being close to LAX means you won't want to leave the venue, and that limits its appeal for me. If I want to go to a Fall show, it will be RAMF unless they fall apart after this year. I really feel sorry for the potential exhibitors, because right now it looks like there are no good answers.

 

[Folsom]

Near the airport? No-brainer for me...

 

[Believe High Fidelity]

I might just sit this one out. I have been wanting to visit my manufacturer out in Cyprus for a nice getaway for the summer than make the "wrong" choice

There really isn't a need for two CA based shows in such close proximity and within a few months of one another. LAAS is better suited to stay in the competition but I think there is going to be some fallout from this from a manufacturer standpoint and like the Highlander movies "There can be only One".

 

[rbbert]

Near the airport? No-brainer for me...

Yea or nay?

 

[Folsom]

Yay. It's so much easier to fly in, take a shuttle, and you're ready for a show. I've done that, and many people do. Avoiding all the potential traffic is a serious benefit compared to some locations.

 

[rbbert]

Yay. It's so much easier to fly in, take a shuttle, and you're ready for a show. I've done that, and many people do. Avoiding all the potential traffic is a serious benefit compared to some locations.

That would be my take as well, but it's not so good for the locals who would be expected to make up the largest percentage of attendees?

 

[KeithR]

For me, neither of the Southern California shows appear very appealing. Being close to LAX means you won't want to leave the venue, and that limits its appeal for me. If I want to go to a Fall show, it will be RAMF unless they fall apart after this year. I really feel sorry for the potential exhibitors, because right now it looks like there are no good answers.

Rob- just take an Uber to Manhattan Beach, Marina del Rey, or Playa Vista. all of 10 mins.

the Hotel Irvine was in a business/industrial park...it wasn't exactly Pelican Hill

 

[KeithR]

That would be my take as well, but it's not so good for the locals who would be expected to make up the largest percentage of attendees?

LAX is way easier than Irvine for most of us. Having all of LA drive the 405 to Irvine in beach weather was a slog...SV and SG Valleys had an even worse commute.

fwiw, I have a friend who does pro-AV setups and he said the hotel is totally wow inside post-renovation.

 

[rbbert]

LAX is way easier than Irvine for most of us. Having all of LA drive the 405 to Irvine in beach weather was a slog...SV and SG Valleys had an even worse commute.

fwiw, I have a friend who does pro-AV setups and he said the hotel is totally wow inside post-renovation.

I do agree that the show itself should be cheaper and more convenient for me, and the renovated hotel's potential for good sounding rooms is somewhat exciting. But combining the trip to the show with visiting family (which I usually do), or getting down to Steve's for an evening, will be much more difficult

 

[Steve Williams]

I do agree that the show itself should be cheaper and more convenient for me, and the renovated hotel's potential for good sounding rooms is somewhat exciting. But combining the trip to the show with visiting family (which I usually do), or getting down to Steve's for an evening, will be much more difficult

Ron and I have actually discussed that yesterday and the answer is simple. Ron will host the party for the LA Show and me (if it's well attended) will be for me to host the Orange County Show

From this thread it seems Ron will be the busy guy

 

[matteos]

I'll prob be going to the LA show. Just signed up for info.

 

[c1ferrari]

Rob- just take an Uber to Manhattan Beach, Marina del Rey, or Playa Vista. all of 10 mins. the Hotel Irvine was in a business/industrial park...it wasn't exactly Pelican Hill

Keith, I also go to a show to relax. I found the Hotel Irvine a venue where my spouse and I could do just that... somehow, LAX doesn't elicit a relaxing vibe -- it could just be me. ;-)