KHARMA EXQUISITE MIDI GRAND with new Update VEYRON DRIVERS

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Just upgrade my Exquisite Midi Grand with New version VEYRON Drivers , it's so much improve sound in every details :):):)
Is it possible for you to share some details about how they sound with the Dart 458 and CH amps and also what the main differences are between the 2 amps when used with the Kharma Exquisite Grand? What cables are you using with them? Many thanks
 

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Is it possible for you to share some details about how they sound with the Dart 458 and CH amps and also what the main differences are between the 2 amps when used with the Kharma Exquisite Grand? What cables are you using with them? Many thanks
I used Goebel loudspeaker cable but the Interconnect cable are mixed with CH ,and Stage III . Compare between CH M1+L1 and darTZeel NHB-458+ NHB-18NS , MKII both are great detail , dynamic and bass impact but darTZeel sound more on the warm side and smooth:)
 
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I used Goebel loudspeaker cable but the Interconnect cable are mixed with CH ,and Stage III . Compare between CH M1+L1 and darTZeel NHB-458+ NHB-18NS , MKII both are great detail , dynamic and bass impact but darTZeel sound more on the warm side and smooth:)
Many thanks for the feedback. Which amp/preamp has better micro dynamics? Also, have you had a chance to the Enigma Veyron EV2 or EV4 and if so, how did they compare to Exquisite Midi Grand? Many thanks
 

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Congrats and absolutely beautiful. I have never heard any of the Kharmas, let alone the big Grand series. Given that I have seen at least 2 owners of major Gryphon electronics run with the big Kharmas, I am curious as to how they sound.

Are there any good reviews (English) of the Kharma Grands (Midi, Grand, Grand Extreme, Grand Extreme Ltd?)
 

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Congrats and absolutely beautiful. I have never heard any of the Kharmas, let alone the big Grand series. Given that I have seen at least 2 owners of major Gryphon electronics run with the big Kharmas, I am curious as to how they sound.

Are there any good reviews (English) of the Kharma Grands (Midi, Grand, Grand Extreme, Grand Extreme Ltd?)
Actually, given that you are in Thailand... presume one of your customers may be one of the Gryphon Mephisto/Kharma Grand/Grand Extreme owners I am referring to? He has a dedicated room (all wood paneling) with several Thorens and other TTs behind the listening couch, with the main Kharma's/amps in front.
 

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Actually, given that you are in Thailand... presume one of your customers may be one of the Gryphon Mephisto/Kharma Grand/Grand Extreme owners I am referring to? He has a dedicated room (all wood paneling) with several Thorens and other TTs behind the listening couch, with the main Kharma's/amps in front.
Do you know which TTs? Is it the thorens reference, and what else?
 

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Do you know which TTs? Is it the thorens reference, and what else?
found it...Cuong Pham

cuong pham's system.jpg

plus he seems to have at least 3 of these...

cuong pham's system TT.jpg
 

LL21

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Wow thanks. Do either of Tang or boon know the details of the analog set ups?
here is where i found it...his current set up appears to be Gryphon Pandora/Mephisto/TA Opus MM2 and [actually] 4 Thorens plus a bunch of other stuff. Not being a TT guy, i can only imagine its all pretty SOTA but i have no idea.

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/808
 

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Wow thanks. Do either of Tang or boon know the details of the analog set ups?
Maybe not Thailand...but Vietnam. I only know that one of Boonyarat’s customers has a pair of Enigma Veyron with the Ironman monos, CH digital, Tripoint Elite, etc. Gryphon is hard to sell here.

Tang
 

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Maybe not Thailand...but Vietnam. I only know that one of Boonyarat’s customers has a pair of Enigma Veyron with the Ironman monos, CH digital, Tripoint Elite, etc. Gryphon is hard to sell here.

Tang
Yes, with a name like that, Vietnam was my guess as well, and there are a lot of high end audio distributors in Vietnam...but given your regional proximity, i thought you might happen to know this particular audiophile given how public his system has been for many years.
 

boonyarat

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Yes, with a name like that, Vietnam was my guess as well, and there are a lot of high end audio distributors in Vietnam...but given your regional proximity, i thought you might happen to know this particular audiophile given how public his system has been for many years.
We did use to demo Gryphon with Kharma Exquisite Classic , as we know Kharma sound so smooth with detail & bass punch and Gryphon amplifier sound lots of power with bass punch& details and a bit bright side . Once matching Gryphon amp with Kharma loudspeakers , in my opinion it tone balance and perfect for audiophile sound not the hi-fi sound. I did sell some Gryphon amplifiers here and it a really one of the great product in the market:):):)
 

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LL21

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We did use to demo Gryphon with Kharma Exquisite Classic , as we know Kharma sound so smooth with detail & bass punch and Gryphon amplifier sound lots of power with bass punch& details and a bit bright side . Once matching Gryphon amp with Kharma loudspeakers , in my opinion it tone balance and perfect for audiophile sound not the hi-fi sound. I did sell some Gryphon amplifiers here and it a really one of the great product in the market:):):)
Fantastic photos! Can you tell us anything about these?

1. On the Wilson Maxx system: is that Pandora/Mephisto and then CH Precision for the TT? What cables?
2. On Magico Q7 system: what preamp...ARC into Mephisto? Is that ARC Anniversary Ref?
3. On Kharma: what cables again?

Generally, do you favor Pandora/Mephisto combination over 'mixing' and what is your thought on the ARC/Mephisto combination?

As for Kharma/Gryphon...when we are next in Asia, we will try to stop by to say hello and listen. Fantastic systems you have done here.
 

boonyarat

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Fantastic photos! Can you tell us anything about these?

1. On the Wilson Maxx system: is that Pandora/Mephisto and then CH Precision for the TT? What cables?
2. On Magico Q7 system: what preamp...ARC into Mephisto? Is that ARC Anniversary Ref?
3. On Kharma: what cables again?

Generally, do you favor Pandora/Mephisto combination over 'mixing' and what is your thought on the ARC/Mephisto combination?

As for Kharma/Gryphon...when we are next in Asia, we will try to stop by to say hello and listen. Fantastic systems you have done here.
1. MAXX 3+ GRYPHON MEPHISTO+PANDORA , The cable mixed between Goebel and Stage III .
2. Q7 , T้้he owner had ARC anniversary Ref before he bought the MEPHISTO , even the PANDORA perform better with Mephisto but owner don't want to loss money on ARC that why he still used it.
3. On Kharma we used GOEBEL mixed with STAGE III cables.

We always found that for this products level better to used their fully matching AMP+PRE-AMP from the same brand , as it always perform better. Thanks and welcome:):):)
 

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