HECO Direkt Einklang / Zweiklang / Dreiklang

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Has anybody already heard these high-efficiency speakers from HECO? I'm especially interested in the middle 2-way "Zweiklang" model which might be a good fit to a secondary system.



 
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I owned these for a little while as a transitionary speaker.

They are pretty darn decent for the money. Need space behind and around them to get the best imaging - more so than others and not like Audio Note E for example.

They are voiced more towards a vintage type presentation - paper pulp large bass driver. Fatigue free. I have heard others complain that they can bite up top but I didn’t experience that.

They are what they are so don’t expect miracles and for them to compete with the best speakers at the £5-10k price point because they won’t. They don’t have the insight and finesse of those speakers.

That said, if this is your price point they are worth a good audition. I would take a Rogers LS5/8 or Audio Note E instead myself.
 

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I owned these for a little while as a transitionary speaker.

They are pretty darn decent for the money. Need space behind and around them to get the best imaging - more so than others and not like Audio Note E for example.

They are voiced more towards a vintage type presentation - paper pulp large bass driver. Fatigue free. I have heard others complain that they can bite up top but I didn’t experience that.

They are what they are so don’t expect miracles and for them to compete with the best speakers at the £5-10k price point because they won’t. They don’t have the insight and finesse of those speakers.

That said, if this is your price point they are worth a good audition. I would take a Rogers LS5/8 or Audio Note E instead myself.
I'm using the Audio Note AN-Es now but I have an oddly-shaped space that doesn't allow me to corner-load the speakers properly. I'm in the market for high-efficiency speakers that don't require corner-loading.
 
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I'm using the Audio Note AN-Es now but I have an oddly-shaped space that doesn't allow me to corner-load the speakers properly. I'm in the market for high-efficiency speakers that don't require corner-loading.
Ah okay. Do you have ability to have about 4-5 feet behind them and space to sides?

I personally prefer Es myself. Did you hear the Orangutang 0/96? I haven’t but heard some positive reports.

The other option is the Living Voice speakers such as OB-X etc.
 

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I've heard the Orangutang 0/96 at shows with Shindo gear and I can't say that I've really loved it.
I can't bring speakers out 4 or 5 feet away from the front wall. Ideally, the front of the speaker would be no more then 3 feet from the front wall. This is a big limitation, I know.
 
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Wow - love your room. Beautifully done.
Mayer amps by looks of it?

What is the actual sonic issue you have right now? Not enough bass or something?
 

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Oh, thanks for that! I actually just removed those photos because they are so old. Yes, a Mayer 45 amp with separate power supply. I'll try and find some recent ones or post a video.
 

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It's hard to get the bass right, the imaging right, and the room loading right when I don't have proper corners for the AN-Es. I always seem to have them in one position or another where they sound really good in some respect but not great in other respects.
 

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The floor in front of the system is kind of a walkway so the space I have to work with is pretty limited.
(these photos are old and the system has changed a lot since then but the space has not)
 

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Just love your taste I have to say - so nicely done.

Not sure of your budget but you could consider the Shindo or Maxonic speakers. Horns is another route worth considering.

I saw a US dealer making essentially a pseudo corner for his Es so he can load the room. Maybe you could do something similar using Baltic birch ply painted to match your lovely rear wall diffuser?
 

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I was thinking of making a pseudo corner but wasn't sure what the proper size and thickness should be. I actually contacted Audio Note and they advised against it saying that it would likely just add more complexity to an already overly complex room.
I've heard a lot of horns (most recently the newest Avantgarde Duo Mezzo) but none that I've really liked. I did an extensive audition of the Shindo Latours but have never heard the Maxonic speakers (they are on my radar though). I really appreciate the suggestions (and the compliments); thank you. My space, my 1.5 watts, and my general dislike for horns make looking for a new speaker very difficult. In the meantime I continue to move my AN-Es around in the hope of finding the magic spot.
 
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I was thinking of making a pseudo corner but wasn't sure what the proper size and thickness should be. I actually contacted Audio Note and they advised against it saying that it would likely just add more complexity to an already overly complex room.
I've heard a lot of horns (most recently the newest Avantgarde Duo Mezzo) but none that I've really liked. I did an extensive audition of the Shindo Latours but have never heard the Maxonic speakers (they are on my radar though). I really appreciate the suggestions (and the compliments); thank you. My space, my 1.5 watts, and my general dislike for horns make looking for a new speaker very difficult. In the meantime I continue to move my AN-Es around in the hope of finding the magic spot.
I have heard Es sounding good without much loading so maybe if you keep at it, you’ll find that perfect spot.
 

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I've heard the Orangutang 0/96 at shows with Shindo gear and I can't say that I've really loved it.
I can't bring speakers out 4 or 5 feet away from the front wall. Ideally, the front of the speaker would be no more then 3 feet from the front wall. This is a big limitation, I know.
Consider the Supravox Bahia, which is a Supravox wideband driver in a TQWT cabinet. Heard this in Munich and was quite impressed, especially for just over $3k. There is also a 2-way called Melodia and a top model single driver called Alizee that is 99db and a premium driver...also in a TQWT bass loading.