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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I got the Center Stage CS Version2 feet at the end of July. Here's my update. As you'll recall, feet were placed under my CD player, a Marantz SA7S1; my phono stage, an ARC REF 10 phono; and my preamp, an ARC REF40 Anniversary. The power supplies of the latter 2 components, the active Pass Labs XVR-1-3 way crossover, and my 3 power amplifiers used the stock feet.

    Once the footers settled, my initial impressions, posted earlier, were borne out over long term listening as follows:
    1) There is a very noticeable increase in the size of the soundstage both depth, width, and height.
    2) Images are really more solid and 3 D, not as flat. Attack and decay are more natural. Sounds are more present.
    3) The sound stage is more continuous. It's may be hard to know what that means until you hear it.

    While I did notice a significant change in deep bass at first, my longer term impression is that the bass did not change so much from where it had been, without the footers, once things settled in. This is a little bit hard to judge accurately as you do gradually get used to what you are hearing over time. It may be that putting CSs under the other equipment and amps would have changed this. I'm not taking the CS footers out to confirm this!

    You may need to make some systems adjustments to optimize what you're hearing, but wait till things settle in. I played with my subwoofer levels, but ended up where I started. I did find I had to re-level my speakers to take advantage of the improved precision of the sound stage.

    My break-in experience may be somewhat different from others based on what I'm reading here. I clearly heard major improvements in early listening unlike some others. Like others, however, my system did go through several episodes of some of the most peculiar changes in dynamics, frequency imbalances, and what sounded like volume changes that I've ever heard. I can't tell you how long break-in will take, as I was not able to listen continuously in the weeks that followed installation. It was all worth it in the end.

    I'm sold! The Center Stage footers are a very worthwhile investment. I've done several thousands of dollars of equipment modifications and component upgrades over the years, but never heard anything quite like what these do to let your system sound more life-like. At some point, I'll buy more for the rest of the system.
    Hi Barry

    Thanks for the follow up

    It's interesting that virtually all users look forward to doing an A-B-A test with these feet to confirm their findings but the reality is most people refuse to take them out of their systems

    While I did notice a significant change in deep bass at first, my longer term impression is that the bass did not change so much from where it had been, without the footers, once things settled in. This is a little bit hard to judge accurately as you do gradually get used to what you are hearing over time. It may be that putting CSs under the other equipment and amps would have changed this. I'm not taking the CS footers out to confirm this!
    As Alan Sircom said in his review posted above by Joe, these feet make you think twice about proposed or needed upgrades in one's system as the overall sound achieved precludes that desire.

    I am in agreement that system changes are usually indicated but subtle at most. IOW a small toe in of speakers or change in sub woofer settings

    In my system these feet solidified the notion that I just did not need sub woofers in my system as my deep bass without my pair of subs IMO is better now than when I used subs without the Center Stage feet

    Ron Resnick and Leif Swanson were visiting last week. Here is a link to their thoughts

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...l=1#post528682

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...l=1#post529077


    I have heard Leif's system before and after he placed Center Stage feet in what he calls his "modest system"

    I can say that the deep bass in his room with his E5's trumped mine easily. Leif's system with the feet in made me pause to be certain that he hadn't changed any equipment as I could not believe how good his system sounded
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    Quote Originally Posted by joelavrencik View Post
    Hi Bazelio

    We should have the foot available in early 2019. There are a few things having to do with adjustability and performance I want to make sure are perfect before I release it. But it will be made so that it can be screwed into the speaker if necessary.
    Sounds good. Do you happen to know what the height of these feet will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazelio View Post
    Sounds good. Do you happen to know what the height of these feet will be?
    Aiming at 2" as the center point around which the foot can be raised or lowered. Not a solid number yet.
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    Hi guys

    Just a final reminder to all of you who own CS version 1 feet and want to upgrade to version 2. The window of opportunity ends Sept 30 and there will be no exceptions. There have been quite a few who have sent their feet back for upgrade and have already received their upgraded version 2 feet from me. So if you’re thinking about it you need to know Sept 30 is the end date to do such
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Williams View Post
    For those still interested in upgrading your version 1 Center Stage feet please PM me as the window of opportunity closes at the end of September
    Steve,

    With all due respect, given the substantial initial cost of this product and the recent release of V1, the September only upgrade time frame seems terribly unfair. You and I know many folks on this forum travel and likely don't keep in touch with "the daily news".

    I was considering trying this item and I'm glad I did not. This is the type of activity that is, unfortunately, way too common in the high end industry. If V1 was not ready for primetime, they should never have been sold. It opens up the question of when V3 will be released along with the associated upgrade issues if available.

    Sincerely.
    Last edited by thedudeabides; 09-15-2018 at 12:56 PM.

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    I understand your point. I have found that in this industry nothing stands still for long. I also know that not many manufacturers provide an upgrade path
    Steve Williams
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedudeabides View Post
    Steve,

    With all due respect, given the substantial initial cost of this product and the recent release of V1, the September only upgrade time frame seems terribly unfair. You and I know many folks on this forum travel and likely don't keep in touch with "the daily news".

    I was considering trying this item and I'm glad I did not. This is the type of activity that is, unfortunately, way too common in the high end industry. If V1 was not ready for primetime, they should never have been sold. It opens up the question of when V3 will be released along with the associated upgrade issues if available.

    Sincerely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Williams View Post
    I understand your point. I have found that in this industry nothing stands still for long. I also know that not many manufacturers provide an upgrade path
    Dude

    FWIW, I received this email a few hours ago from a version one Center Stage user who recently upgraded most of his version one feet. I thought it answered some of the questions you posed.

    Steve>
    This probably won’t surprise you however after settling in the stage 2 footers are much better; not better by a little but better by a lot. While the first generation was a wonderful step forward the stage 2 footers are light years ahead. Who would have thought?
    I would like to upgrade my final set. It is the 1.5 size (the big ones!).
    Steve Williams
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedudeabides View Post
    Steve,

    With all due respect, given the substantial initial cost of this product and the recent release of V1, the September only upgrade time frame seems terribly unfair. You and I know many folks on this forum travel and likely don't keep in touch with "the daily news".

    I was considering trying this item and I'm glad I did not. This is the type of activity that is, unfortunately, way too common in the high end industry. If V1 was not ready for primetime, they should never have been sold. It opens up the question of when V3 will be released along with the associated upgrade issues if available.

    Sincerely.
    Hi tda

    Thank you for mentioning the possibility of a V3. There is no V3. CS2 can't be modified further without rolling off the top end. High frequency roll off would diminish the immersion effect. This, I would never do.
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