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    Unhappy Help me beat my CD Transport

    Long story short - My CD / SACD transport sounds better than my music server / file player. Now, I am faced with having to manually playing physical media. Please recommend to me a File based player that can beat my transport.

    CD Transport : DCS Vivaldi

    File based player : Aurender W20 with wordclock input from DCS Vivaldi clock. Output is AES / EBU (tried USB - AES was better)

    DAC : Vivaldi DAC + upsampler

    Please help.
    Source : Aurender W20, DCS Vivaldi V2 stack + Antelope Atomic clock, Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LPS, ARC ref2 SE, VPI HRX + Koetsu Blue Azule, Thales Audio Simplicity arm + TT + Benz Micro LPS

    Amplification : Gryphon Pandora + Mephisto Stereo or Naim Statement

    Speaker : ProAc Carbon 8

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    Joeling, I have some fears moving to streaming that things won't match my superlative Eera cdp.
    I'm planning to run streaming alongside cdp and tt, and use streaming for
    1- music that just isn't readily available on physical media
    2- find music I'll love and get the black or silver disc if it's available
    3- expand my musical universe
    It's NOT going to be a replacement esp for my cdp.

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    Joeling ... Slightly OT , but would luv to hear your experience with the mighty Naim Statments !
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeling View Post
    Long story short - My CD / SACD transport sounds better than my music server / file player. Now, I am faced with having to manually playing physical media. Please recommend to me a File based player that can beat my transport.

    CD Transport : DCS Vivaldi

    File based player : Aurender W20 with wordclock input from DCS Vivaldi clock. Output is AES / EBU (tried USB - AES was better)

    DAC : Vivaldi DAC + upsampler

    Please help.
    Short answer - never heard about someone achieving it. Unfortunately most developers have been focusing mainly in USB, not in high quality network servers.
    DCS Vivaldi 2.0 stack, Metronome Kalista / Kondo KSL DAC, Soundlab A1 Px's , EMT927, SME3012R, ARC Phono 3, ARC REF40, VTL Siegfried II, TA Opus MM2 speaker and signal, TA XL digital, TA XL gen V power cables, CenterStage footers and Nordost Qkore8's!

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    LessLoss Laminar streamer
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    Discounts available for 2 or more (no kidding, on the website checkout).

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiritofmusic View Post
    Joeling, I have some fears moving to streaming that things won't match my superlative Eera cdp.
    I'm planning to run streaming alongside cdp and tt, and use streaming for
    1- music that just isn't readily available on physical media
    2- find music I'll love and get the black or silver disc if it's available
    3- expand my musical universe
    It's NOT going to be a replacement esp for my cdp.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeling View Post
    Long story short - My CD / SACD transport sounds better than my music server / file player. Now, I am faced with having to manually playing physical media. Please recommend to me a File based player that can beat my transport.

    CD Transport : DCS Vivaldi

    File based player : Aurender W20 with wordclock input from DCS Vivaldi clock. Output is AES / EBU (tried USB - AES was better)

    DAC : Vivaldi DAC + upsampler

    Please help.
    It 's very hard to beat the source costing 2 or 3 times more than the other , irrespectively if this concerns analog or digital.
    Moreover Vivaldi transport, upsampler and DAC are optimised as a set by the manufacturer.
    Even if your clock is Antelope then the price of the source is approx 100 k euro, cabling not included.
    Aurender with DAC cost a half.
    I heard the whole Vivaldi stack only once and IMHO this cannot be outperformed by Aurender with any DAC I know.
    Maybe Pacific DAC?
    I also auditionned SGM with HQ Player in Monaco and I would give it a listen , especially with new Lampi top of the line.
    Last edited by marslo; 10-11-2017 at 10:45 AM.
    Aurender W20->Audio Aero La Fontaine/ Lampizator Pacific SE -> Ayon Crossfire III -> Avantgarde Acoustic Duo Mezzo XD
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    Once we decide what is the very best dedicated CD player ever made, I am planning to wait for everyone to switch to streaming, and then buy such (then obsolete) CD player for scrap value.

    Then I will finally have digital.
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    Just get the Eera now, Ron, and be done LOL.

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    . . . Maybe next year.

    But over the years I think I have replicated on LP almost all of my crappy 1980s one-hit wonder bands and miscellaneous rock and pop I had originally on CD.
    Mono and Stereo - Senior Contributing Reviewer

    turntable: American Sound AS-2000; tonearms: SME 3012R, Schröder LT; cartridges: ZYX UNIverse Premium X-SB2, Air Tight Opus-1; tape: Studer A820 Mk II; phono stage: Aesthetix Io Eclipse; line stage: VTL TL-7.5 Series III; amplifier: VTL Siegfried Series II; loudspeaker: Gryphon Pendragon; cables: MasterBuilt Ultra; stands: Vintage Audio Nothing racks, Herzan TS-140/Taiko Tana for Io, Stacore Basic+ for amps; power: Torus AVR60BAL; room: 19' wide X 24' long X 14' tall; acoustic treatment: ASC IsoThermal Tube Traps, Lumitex drapes

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