My C37 Restoration Adventure Begins

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Creighters and Freighters called me this morning and my Studer C37 has been shipped. The shipper sent me a photo of the crate and it is bigger than I expected. My Tech requested that the modules be wrapped and boxed separately so that part is in it's own compartment in the crate. Everything is braced and it looks like this crate could make it to Aussieland safely,it is only going to NYC though. The crate will be delivered later next week. I am hoping to post some photos as this progresses.

 

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Roger, that 'big' box; is she reposing on a standard North American pallet (40" x 48")?
If yes then it is over eight feet high.
That is quite big for something to do with shipping an audio component (R-2-R) and without being a large loudspeaker.
 

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Roger, that 'big' box; is she reposing on a standard North American pallet (40" x 48")?
If yes then it is over eight feet high.
That is quite big for something to do with shipping an audio component (R-2-R) and without being a large loudspeaker.

Bob,

I think it's about 6.75 feet high, but it is heavy @ 498...to be exact Bob....85x32x35

The C37 is on the bottom,the console is in the middle compartment and the electronics are in the top compartment. Everything is wrapped ,foamed and braced.
 
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Myles,

I agree.....but that's a great article. You want my explanation....there are about 1200 C37's and many J37's....there are only about maybe 30 or less MR70's that are runnable. This C37 I have will not be a museum piece and I will only upgrade the parts,all values will be factory stock,the same with my MR70's.....so we will see which one is better. Frankly I don't see how the C37 will sound better than my MR70's but it doesn't matter to me. I will have my own custom voiced harem of RTR machines and preamps...octal tube,9 pin miniature tube,solid state and nuvistor....it can't get much better than that.
 

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Bob,

I think it's about 6.75 feet high, but it is heavy @ 498...to be exact Bob....85x32x35

The C37 is on the bottom,the console is in the middle compartment and the electronics are in the top compartment. Everything is wrapped ,foamed and braced.

Ah, it isn't the standard size pallet then. Thx Roger.
 

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Apparently Willi Studer had a strong opinion on the MR70:

http://http://www.tonbandmuseum.info/nach-den-ampex-3xx.html

One can only assume (if the story is factual) that Willi was speaking in terms of the entire MR70 recorder. Today we find quite a few transports that do a great job of moving tape; certainly the later model A80, A827 (and many others) are equal to whatever could be considered the pinnacle of tape handling. It's the MR70 electronics that move the goalpost so far back......fantastic design and sound so good it's like a bad addiction. But hey, don't take my word for it :)

Cool project, Roger.
 

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Apparently Willi Studer had a strong opinion on the MR70:

http://http://www.tonbandmuseum.info/nach-den-ampex-3xx.html

One can only assume (if the story is factual) that Willi was speaking in terms of the entire MR70 recorder. Today we find quite a few transports that do a great job of moving tape; certainly the later model A80, A827 (and many others) are equal to whatever could be considered the pinnacle of tape handling. It's the MR70 electronics that move the goalpost so far back......fantastic design and sound so good it's like a bad addiction. But hey, don't take my word for it :)

Cool project, Roger.

Tom-It's a dead link.
 

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The MR70 has uses 18 nuvistors in each channel electronics. The 2 line output ampliers each use 2 7895 hi mu triodes and 2 7587 nuvistors. They were originally voiced with Elmenco mylar caps and carbon comp resistors. The sound is full,rich and transparent. The strength of the nuvistor is it's high gain and low voltage design. I find it extremely transparent, and voicing with modern components takes it to a whole new level.
 

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I was able to get there and I have seen those comments before. There is no higher praise than for Willie Studer to say that he hoped to make a deck as good as the MR-70. I always thought that Studer decks had a much more sophisticated transport than the Ampex decks.
 

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I was able to get there and I have seen those comments before. There is no higher praise than for Willie Studer to say that he hoped to make a deck as good as the MR-70. I always thought that Studer decks had a much more sophisticated transport than the Ampex decks.

When I chatted with Fred Thal,Fred talked about transport design and the way tape is moved. I asked him about the C37 and here was his reply....

"Yes, the C37 was designed with respect to precision guidance
principles, but the headblock design did not rely on this."

Most all later Studer's use the precision guidance principle. The MR70 was originally designed to use that principle,but not fully.
 

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Roger do you know of any recordings done with a MR70? That is besides your own :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/POEM-WORKS-...300620704793?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item45fe63ec19

http://richardsonrecords.com/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chico-Freem...200970851672?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item2ecacbd558

The poem CD is Kavi Alexanders using a MR70. The Richardson recordings Annapolis 1&2 are MR70 remastered digitally using a Nagra D and are very good.

The Clarity recordings were done on my 1/2 2 track Jack Mullin Special when Bob Porter owned the deck. These were made in 1995-1999

I like them all although I don't have that particular Clarity CD
 

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/POEM-WORKS-...300620704793?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item45fe63ec19

http://richardsonrecords.com/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chico-Freem...200970851672?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item2ecacbd558

The poem CD is Kavi Alexanders using a MR70. The Richardson recordings Annapolis 1&2 are MR70 remastered digitally using a Nagra D and are very good.

The Clarity recordings were done on my 1/2 2 track Jack Mullin Special when Bob Porter owned the deck. These were made in 1995-1999

I like them all although I don't have that particular Clarity CD

Thanks think have the Poem and one of the Richardson LPs buried somewhere too.
 

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