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    Experience with Torus All-in-One 12KVA Power Conditioner "Chemistry" w/ MSB Components

    Thank you, mtemur. As you likely inferred, the Torus AIO is not a standard in rack power conditioner, it is a massive breaker panel (like an Equitech) that has 24 isolated breakers and a large 12KVA transformer. I’ve included its product description below. The three dedicated circuits that I run...
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    Experience with Torus All-in-One 12KVA Power Conditioner "Chemistry" w/ MSB Components

    Hi all, Was interested in hearing forum members experience utilizing this Torus Power Conditioner, and in particular with MSB components. For the last three years, it has served as the electrical/power source for my dedicated listening system. From it I run three dedicated / isolated 20 amp...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    does anyone have the release notes to the latest Aurender N30SA firmware update? Would be interesting to know what changed and if real sonic improvements were made (vs ones that we think we hear :) )
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Go to the Conductor settings and select software update in the left hand margin. Then select check for latest version of software on that page. Simple process.
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    Wadax Reference Dac and Server arrive

    Fair enough, Steve. I have no dog in the hunt here. I’m just an enthusiast and not involved in the trade. Just wish every time I opened my checkbook to acquire a new piece of audiophile gear, it wasn’t a multiple of $10,000.
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    Wadax Reference Dac and Server arrive

    Who’s debasing Wadax? I was making the salient point that the differential in cost between owning an MSB Select and Wadax for many is not $40K unless one already owns a caliber of preamp (and requisite cables, cords, isolation etc) that will not impede the performance of the Wadax. I’m certainly...
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    Wadax Reference Dac and Server arrive

    It’s certainly a fair question. The point I was endeavoring to make was that many MSB Select owners are using the preamp module provided with the MSB Select in lieu of a separate reference preamplifier. Many will say that to best the stock preamp module, one needs to spend upwards of $50-$60K...
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    Wadax Reference Dac and Server arrive

    Thanks Mike. That’s understandable and I apologize if I missed your prior attempts to explain the cost differential. With all due respect to everyone’s opinions on this thread, it feels like we’re comparing apples to oranges here with the Wadax stack + a preamp + additional cables and isolation...
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    Wadax Reference Dac and Server arrive

    Hi Mike, Have really been enjoying your Wadax updates…I continue to believe that competition is great for our hobby, and even though some of us who no longer own the absolute SOTA or can’t afford it might be disappointed in the near term, in the long run we’ll all be better off for it as...
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    Wadax Reference Dac and Server arrive

    Congratulations Mike. The Wadax sounds like a hell of a pre-retirement and Xmas present! Thanks for sharing your detailed initial impressions and we look forward to hearing more in the future. Speaking for myself, I’m disappointed to hear that the Select sounds a notch below the Wadax, but...
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    Goebel Cables

    Good luck with your evaluation. As you know, there’s never one right or wrong answer and it often comes down to personal taste and synergy with the rest of your system. As I own Gobel speakers, I have that synergy. Please keep us posted on how Gobel stacks up after they’ve been full broken in!
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Thanks. I’ve heard that the Aurender AES output is excellent. With the MSB Select and ProUSB/ISL module the USB interface is excellent b/c it is clocked by MSB’s internal Femto 33 clock.
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Thanks! I’m using an Uptone 1.2 LPS with my EtherRegen and an inexpensive outboard clock the manufacturer recommended. Are you using an outboard clock and have you compared the SQ of using CAT8 vs Fiber between your home router/switch and your EtherRegen?
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    JCharvet, Please keep us posted on the impact of the custom umbilical cord post break in. In the meantime, would you mind sharing what hardware you’ve implemented along your signal path between your ISP/Router > N30 > DAC? Not sure if you’re using an audiophile switch and/or a USB reclocker...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    I’ve only had my N30SA up and running for a few hours (though it’s been powered on for the last 2-3 days while I transferred music to its SSD and waited to receive my MSB ProUSB/ISL modules). I’m blown away. It crushes my prior config where Roon was running on my QNAP server and using MSB’s...
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    Goebel Cables

    I have a full loom of Gobel. As you likely have read, they take 500 hours+ to burn in, so be patient. What I heard a few days In, compared to what I hear now, is much different.
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    Joes’ New System Install

    Got it - thanks. Yes, I’m looking forward to receiving my N30SA. Should be arriving the week after next!
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    Joes’ New System Install

    Hi Audire, Phenomenal system! Nice that you have access to some very good dealers in Florida who’ve helped you demo and curate SOTA hardware that comprise it…just in time for the holidays! Had a quick question for you. I have a N30SA on order which I intend to upgrade to 16TBs of storage to...
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    The new MSB Pro USB interface

    Gds & Armsan, Very interesting approach to eliminate the use of a USB cable all together. It certainly seems like “less cable should be more” but then again had that unequivocally been the case I surmise MSB would have designed the ProUSB module with a male connector to plug directly into an...
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    Equi~Tech vs Torus

    Great to hear, LL21, especially because it would have been a major PITA for me to reconfigure my system to bypass my 12KVA Torus!!!
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    Equi~Tech vs Torus

    Thanks LL21. I’m happy to hear that this has been your experience. My dedicated audio power circuits are running through my Torus All In One system. I was second guessing my set up after hearing from another audiophile that toroidal conditioners weren’t fast enough to supply amps with...
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    Equi~Tech vs Torus

    Hi All, For those who have invested in a large “whole house” wall mounted power conditioner made by Equi=tech or Torus, I’d be curious to know whether you are plugging your power amplifiers into circuits fed by said toroidal power conditioners or if you are bypassing them (as to not restrict...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Thanks nonsup. If price were not a factor, for the USB specifically, would you have opted for two Göbels? I’ve heard that the Intona Ultimate is excellent however I’d be curious to hear whether it or the Sablon to your ears is as good as the Gobel?
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Nonesup, I see that you’re using a combination of network and USB cables, of which two include Göbel. I have Gobel speakers and cables throughout. Was there a reason why you mixed brands? And with regard to your Gobel USB cable how does it sound compares to the other brands? Reason I ask, is...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Thanks Nonesup! Wondering whether the performance of the N30SA or Taiko USB outputs have come far enough along to eliminate the need for inserting a USB reclocker (and a second reference USB cable) in between the server and the DAC? One would hope that’s what you’re paying for when spending...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Thanks Jcharvet. Appreciate your passing along these insights and viewpoints shared by Aurender. They are consistent with what I’ve learned over the course of my due diligence before making my decision. Saying that, I guess I’d be bummed if they offered a W30 in the imminent future. In my pro...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    When you do, a lot of us are dying to hear. :)
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Thanks everyone. All great feedback! Rachik, MSB’s best interface is their ProUSB/ISL module so unfortunately I won’t be able to advantage of Aurender’s upsampling available on their AES, which I hear is excellent and not available on its USB output. Rau, I’ve also head the Omega is excellent...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Thanks gentlemen. I’ve decided to pull the trigger on the N30SA (vs the W20SE). Just seems like the prudent decision considering it’s based upon Aurender’s latest technology platform. Also appears that it has held its own against the Taiko in some recent auditions discussed on another forum...
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    Aurender N30 - To stay competitive in 2021

    Hi all, I’m down to the short strokes of deciding between the N30SA and the W20SE to feed my MSB Select DAC. Will likely decide in the next 24 hours. Saying that, for those who’ve owned or auditioned both models, and recognizing price is essentially equal as is sonic performance, are there...

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