First Covid 19 vaccine recipient

Gregadd · Jan 2, 2021

BlueFox said:
Not to sidetrack the thread, but are you saying vitamins can prevent Polio?

This is a very sticky subject. I suggest you consult Dr. Gary Nulls website.
1. All medicines have side effects.
2. All humans have autoimmune systems. They are very effective at resisting disease. Vitamin therapy is effective in boosting the auotimmune system.
3. Immunity from lawsuits were included in the covid 19 relief bills.

Gentleman the decision to take or not take a vaccine is a serious and very personal one.
To believe any group is not at risk is a serious error. A disease should not have to be fatal to warrant a vaccine. For a long time I gambled against the flu vaccine. Not taking it is a poor risk with no upside. IMO

jeff1225 · Jan 2, 2021

BlueFox said:
Not to sidetrack the thread, but are you saying vitamins can prevent Polio?

Yes he said that on an earlier thread.

Gregadd · Jan 2, 2021

jeffrey_t said:
Yes he said that on an earlier thread.

Again anyone claiming vitamins cure diseases has misconstrued the argument. Vitamins strengthen the autoimmune which fight off disease and infections far more effectively than modern medicine.

jeff1225 · Jan 2, 2021

Folsom said:
I never said I'm anti-vax. Ever. I don't subscribe to binaryisms.

Why do you go from being friendly Jeff to posting BS to be mean in a flash? Do you feel ok or are you on edge all the time?

Now that I think about it, the polio vaccine and Flintstone vitamins debuted at the same time....

Maybe we should have been giving credit to the eradication of polio to Fred Flintstone and not Jonas Salk.

Folsom · Jan 2, 2021

Gregadd said:
This is a very sticky subject. I suggest you consult Dr. Gary Knolls website.
1. All medicines have side effects.
2. All humans have autoimmune systems. They are very effective at resisting disease. Vitamin therapy is effective in boosting the auotimmune system.
3. Immunity from lawsuits were included in the covid 19 relief bills.

Gentleman the decision to take or not take a vaccine is a serious and very personal one.
To believe any group is not at risk is a serious error. A disease should not have to be fatal to warrant a vaccine. For a long time I gambled against the flu vaccine. Not taking it is a poor risk with no upside. IMO

I think you "immune" system because not everyone exhibits autoimmune functions all the time. Autoimmune means to attack the self. (allergies, asthma, MS, etc)

When it comes to the flu, I always recommend vitamin D supplementation (natural vitamin company varieties). It's been proven more effective than than flu shots. One could double up, but I'm not sure what the math represents mathematically for the benefit. The flu is... fluid, a bit of a moving target, so the vaccine is also a little bit of a moving benefit.

BlueFox · Jan 2, 2021

Well, I am 71, take vitamins, and never had polio. Then again, I did get the polio vaccine when I was a kid. I think I will side with science and the vaccine on this subject. Sorry for the derail.

Folsom · Jan 2, 2021

jeffrey_t said:
Yes he said that on an earlier thread.

I did not, as I've stated several times here and there. But by your logic you're an anti-waxxer because you won't wax your car when it's raining on it. Why do you insist on being so childish? Why am I your boogieman? Why are you so obsessed with me?

Gregadd · Jan 2, 2021

Folsom said:
I think you "immune" system because not everyone exhibits autoimmune functions all the time. Autoimmune means to attack the self. (allergies, asthma, MS, etc)

When it comes to the flu, I always recommend vitamin D supplementation (natural vitamin company varieties). It's been proven more effective than than flu shots. (if you google search that, Harvard is one of the first returns). One could double up, but I'm not sure what the math represents mathematically for the benefit. The flu is... fluid, a bit of a moving target, so the vaccine is also a little bit of a moving benefit.

We eat so many processed foods that are stripped of their vitamin content. When we prepare our on foods we often cook them to death. I believe this compromises our autoimmune system. Theoretically a vaccine gives our bodies a dress rehearsal in fighting an unknown disease. I did not get polio probably because I was never exposed to it. But not taking the vaccine was just to risky for me. (notwithstanding the fact I was a child and did not really understand it.)

RBFC · Jan 2, 2021

I received the first dose on 12/19 (true front-line) and get the second dose Thursday. My team manages the sickest COVID patients on ECMO (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation) when ventilators are unsuccessful.

Besides a sore arm for a few hours, I noticed zero symptoms or side effects. There are obviously divergent opinions about the vaccine. My special needs son is in the highest risk tier, providing yet another reason that I must make every attempt to prevent getting sick (yes, I understand that I may still be a carrier and personally unaffected) and to "test" the effects on myself before he receives it next month. In my view, the science behind the vaccine is solid. While it's a personal decision for many, waiting for herd immunity to exceed 50% will entail thousands more deaths.

Lee

the sound of Tao · Jan 2, 2021

RBFC said:
I received the first dose on 12/19 (true front-line) and get the second dose Thursday. My team manages the sickest COVID patients on ECMO (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation) when ventilators are unsuccessful.

Besides a sore arm for a few hours, I noticed zero symptoms or side effects. There are obviously divergent opinions about the vaccine. My special needs son is in the highest risk tier, providing yet another reason that I must make every attempt to prevent getting sick (yes, I understand that I may still be a carrier and personally unaffected) and to "test" the effects on myself before he receives it next month. In my view, the science behind the vaccine is solid. While it's a personal decision for many, waiting for herd immunity to exceed 50% will entail thousands more deaths.

Lee

I think many of us may make this decision based in part on the needs of others. For some that may be the primary driver.

Testy Troll · Jan 2, 2021

I don't believe I will take the vaccine. (may change my mind after more research)
I am 70 yrs old and haven't had a flu shot in over 50 yrs.
During that time I have not had symptoms of the flu or any virus.
I've had about a dozen colds during that time period.
All my life I've been taking vitamins and supplements on a daily basis.
IMHO, mega-dosing Vitamin C is probably the main reason for my resistance to disease.
I currently take 8-10 grams a day.

BTW, during the Polio crisis, Vitamin C cured many people who were in the early stages.
The key is to take enough of it.
Requires monster intravenous doses.

Holli82 · Jan 2, 2021

Took Pfizer last week. Sore arm for 2 days. Told my wife I wasn’t feeling well and needed time to recover listening to my system.

bonzo75 · Jan 3, 2021

BlueFox said:
Not to sidetrack the thread, but are you saying vitamins can prevent Polio?

I would never debate Folsom on medicine. He googles and reads WhatsApp forwards

bonzo75 · Jan 3, 2021

Testy Troll said:
I don't believe I will take the vaccine. (may change my mind after more research)
I am 70 yrs old and haven't had a flu shot in over 50 yrs.
During that time I have not had symptoms of the flu or any virus.
I've had about a dozen colds during that time period.
All my life I've been taking vitamins and supplements on a daily basis.
IMHO, mega-dosing Vitamin C is probably the main reason for my resistance to disease.
I currently take 8-10 grams a day.

BTW, during the Polio crisis, Vitamin C cured many people who were in the early stages.
The key is to take enough of it.
Requires monster intravenous doses.

What is the rest of your diet, exercise habit, and do those in your family who share your genes similarly have less illness

the sound of Tao · Jan 3, 2021

bonzo75 said:
I would never debate Folsom on medicine. He googles and reads WhatsApp forwards

I looked it up... sounds like a bad case of expertitis... unfortunately there is no known cure

Gregadd · Jan 3, 2021

Let's be honest. Few people lack the discipline or knowledge to design and adhere to true vitamin therapy regimen capable of fending off a serious disease like covid 19. I imagine they got caught with their pants down just like the pharmaceutical industry. They don't through pills at people. You have to follow a protocol. They would have no immunity. The FDA would never approve it. They lack the funding and resources to quickly develop a quick protocol.
I'll ttake the vaccine because givenmy present state of health it would not be a good idea to ask my body to fight off a major disease. I will continue to avoid exposure even after I do.

Gregadd · Jan 3, 2021

expertitis" when did educating oneself with knowledge and science become a bad thing? Since it is who declared this thread apolitical, I'll leave it at that. There may not be a cure for "expertitis",. Fortunately there is a cure for ignorance. It is called knowledge. Yu can get that form experts.

Testy Troll · Jan 3, 2021

bonzo75 said:
What is the rest of your diet, exercise habit, and do those in your family who share your genes similarly have less illness

I pretty much eat what I want. I do consume red wine 4-5 times a week.
I used to be an exercise fanatic, to the point I WOULD get colds occasionally from over-training.
Nowadays I just walk and do yardwork.
I would say my parents got their share of colds and Flu. They lived into their late 80s.
Honestly, I haven't had a cold in the last 10-20 years...

Bobvin · Jan 3, 2021

Red wine... part of my nightly wuflu test. Open, sniff—good, I can smell. Taste, yep, that part still works. Finish the bottle in celebration!

jeff1225 · Jan 3, 2021

Testy Troll said:
I don't believe I will take the vaccine. (may change my mind after more research)
I am 70 yrs old and haven't had a flu shot in over 50 yrs.
During that time I have not had symptoms of the flu or any virus.
I've had about a dozen colds during that time period.
All my life I've been taking vitamins and supplements on a daily basis.

Gregadd said:

Let's be honest. Few people lack the discipline or knowledge to design and adhere to true vitamin therapy regimen capable of fending off a serious disease like covid 19. I imagine they got caught with their pants down just like the pharmaceutical industry. They don't through pills at people. You have to follow a protocol. They would have no immunity. The FDA would never approve it. They lack the funding and resources to quickly develop a quick protocol.
I'll ttake the vaccine because givenmy present state of health it would not be a good idea to ask my body to fight off a major disease. I will continue to avoid exposure even after I do.

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IMHO, mega-dosing Vitamin C is probably the main reason for my resistance to disease.
I currently take 8-10 grams a day.

BTW, during

There are billions in sales and 100’s of millions in profits every year attributed to vitamin companies. They chose (very wisely) to not have their products tested by the FDA.

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