Duly noted. When you figure out which Friday Im coming to hear Danny's system I'll hopefully have some to bring you
I've sold out all of my first shipment and orders are being taken now for the next shipment which is 4 weeks out and that next shipment is already half sold
Duly noted. When you figure out which Friday Im coming to hear Danny's system I'll hopefully have some to bring you
I've sold out all of my first shipment and orders are being taken now for the next shipment which is 4 weeks out and that next shipment is already half sold
BTW, to everyone reading this thread, Joe texted me fro the airport in Denver as he is leaving RMAF for home. He is hoping to have some time later today to chime in and make comments and answer any questions that members might have so stay tune later today
This is all incredibly interesting. From what Steve is experiencing is I think what Joe has described perfectly entropy or disorder in the current or signal flow. This isolation seems to have a similar effect on sound reproduction as my extreme grounding experience,but without the 28 pounds of copper cable. If I didn't have my HT project started, I would purchase these Center Stage items...they literally sound like the real deal.
It isn't secret sauce Christian. Read Joe's white paper. Joe won't divulge anything because his patent is pending but he does give ideas in his White paper with metals used as long as you understand the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics as that is what they are based upon
So what happens when there are swings in room temp? I'm thinking the footers are dealing in micro temps but rooms can swing several degrees constantly. How is the performance envelope affected?
It was great to finally meet Mike. Great guy. I think, though, he was being a bit kind about the sound of the room when he was there. The system was going through a settling phase that had it at an audibly high level of distortion, and me cringing in my chair. The system locked in pretty nicely on Sunday, but as fate would have it, Mike had to leave the previous day. Oh well. Perhaps another time.
I just returned from RMAF and am catching up on thread responses. I'm all the way up to #3.
I wanted to personally thank you for your beta participation. Your assessment was very important to the development of CS. It is true that I purposely designed CS using scrap wood and other materials laying around here. So, the product had to be a superior on your rack. I'm glad it was so. Maybe we'll meet someday. I'd love to shake your hand and say thank you in person.
Steve the speculation creates a nice bit of underlying excitement and interest but the protection of the intellectual property is completely understandable. Will it become a bit more open when Joe gets patents on these and is that the plan?
Just a couple of more things came to mind when re-reading the early posts. Apologies if I missed any of the answers to any of these.
Are the footers similarly effective if used under shelves or racks as they are when directly under the components or do they do their best work closest to the component?
Is there a piezo-electric element to the design or is it functionally just purely mechanical? n.b. I am at the low tech end so if this is a poorly framed question it comes out of those limits.
If you take the component off the footers for any length of time does it then take any time for them to resume effect... are you in for another 7 days to get back up to speed?
Also congratulations Joe on what is sounding like a great new design.
Noise is the enemy.
And the hobby continues to astound.
Your story Steve is another great one to add to the list.
In my room, acoustics and power grid optimisation is allowing all my vibration management to excel.
Maybe I'll try a set.
Are we talking about footers that can be placed under all components?
Could work great w my Stacores.
How much per set?
I hope you don't mind me replying to your comment. I took a look at Stacore and it seems to me that, yes, Center Stage would work on your platforms. They should add an incredible sense of dimension to your system. You get the best bang for your buck by using them in a complete signal path, but if that's not possible, I suggest starting at the front end, or as near to the front end as possible. The idea is to get the signal right from the start.
These feet can be put under anything that is in the signal path.
There are several unique features about Center Stage
1. It is an isolation device much the same as other feet on the market
2. What is so absolutely unique is the total immersion effect. People are asking about the sound stage. The stage remains intact and in fact IMO better than without the feet. What is so unique is the sound stage moving forward from that imaginary horizontal line between the speakers such that the listener is truly Center Stage and immersed in the music. This is not a gimmick but it is what distinguishes Center Stage from any other foot on the market. I have used many of the most popular feet over the years but have found them to strip out the ambient sound from the sound stage. It is only when the listener does an A-B-A test with Center Stage as with other feet to understand what happens. Removing the other feet to my ears restores some of the magic removed whereas removing the Center Stage creates a profound collapse of the Center Stage.
This product is only just being released to the public and as stated earlier one of the major electronics manufacturers has ordered 1000 of these for their components. Have had many demo feet out to friends to use in their systems and I can say unequivocally that not one person who has demoed CS has returned it. They have all been purchased and having sold just over 200 i am simply amazed as to the reception this little foot has gotten. For those wanting more information please contact me by PM or email as people are already ordering from the next 200 I am receiving soon
As to price Mark, they are $300 each
It is recommended to place them initially under source components, then preamp, then amp and then power supplies and power conditioners
Initially we were going to provide adapters for the feet and the component however after evaluating the Center Stage with and without the adapter the sonic change is identical
There are 2 sizes
Regular measuring 13/16" high and the tall measuring 1" high. They are sonically identical
The larger foot is recommended for front end equipment loads over 100 lbs and an amplifiers regardless of their weight as often the attached foot on the amplifier is taller. There is no need remove the stock foot
The caveat I tell everyone is to expect your system to sound terrible for 5-7 days and sometimes up to 10-14 depending on the comments however I can promise you that once they have burned in, sit down and tighten your seat belt as you will be in for the ride of your life
The Center Stage was voiced best for 4 feet as I have been asked by people if 3 would suffice. The answer is no. They sound best with four
I included the story of sequential removal in my post because it was astounding how removal from just one component caused the overall effect to diminish substantially. I am ordering another 4 to put under my newest piece in my system, an Audioquest Niagara 7000 power conditioner that is feeding everything but my 2 JL F 113 subs because of the tremendous amount of power they draw for their 2000 watt amps, although I will try them through the Niagara after it breaks in. I was quite skeptical, but the benefit is well worth it because of the increase in involvement.
I really appreciate this post because it clarifies the importance of using CS in a complete signal path. I know this may seem like a sales pitch, but it isn't. It is the absolute truth for systems contained within the listening room. And, using them under your conditioner is very important. We tested this at RMAF on a simple power strip and it makes a big difference as these types of components feed power to many components. I can get into the "why" later......
It was great to finally meet Mike. Great guy. I think, though, he was being a bit kind about the sound of the room when he was there. The system was going through a settling phase that had it at an audibly high level of distortion, and me cringing in my chair. The system locked in pretty nicely on Sunday, but as fate would have it, Mike had to leave the previous day. Oh well. Perhaps another time.
my Saturday comments were just relative to other 'show systems' and the degree of nuance I heard. something was different in a good way. and it was better enough than Friday to grab my attention.
supposedly I have 2 sets of these on the way at some point to try in my system.....and then i'll sit back and hear it happen all the way through.
I put them under the components in the room myself, and I couldn't see them when done. No one in the audience noticed over the 3 day period. And, nothing in the rack or on the amp stands looked "jacked up". The silver feet under the Airtight pre (far right middle) are their stock feet, not CS....
Joe, I'll definitely investigate.
The move to my new room w stellar acoustics and power grid has been the single most dramatic impvt in my system since I started in this borderline crazy hobby.
So much so I'm finding I'm easily resisting all temptations to upgrade gear and concentrate 100% of effort and resources on system-wide upgrades.
My passion/weakness now is Stacore, and I'm on nothing short of a mission to isolate at least 7 components w these platforms.
I agree that the potential for CSFs to synergise w the Stacores is there, and I'll make efforts in the near future to look into them.
