Many heart attack patients don't refill their meds

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Many heart attack patients don't refill their meds

difficult for me as a physician to read about life saving therapy post heart attack not being used by those affected


NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Older people who've suffered a heart attack often don't stick with the drugs their doctor prescribes, although the medications have been proven to save lives, according to a new study.

Seniors filled prescriptions for the clot-buster drug clopidogrel (Plavix) less than half the time on average, for instance. And the less diligent they were at getting their meds, the more likely they were to have health problems and die early, researchers found.

Given that the drugs are known to be helpful, "it should be no surprise that patients who actually don't take their medications for various reasons don't get as much of that benefit," said Dr. Kim Eagle, who heads the Cardiovascular Center at the University of Michigan Health System and was not involved in the study.

After a heart attack, patients are typically prescribed a number of drugs to prevent another one, including a clot-buster, blood pressure drugs, beta-blockers and statins.

Clinical trials have proven that the drugs are effective. Ilene Zuckerman of the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy, who led the new study, said she and her colleagues wanted to see how the medications are used in the real world. Their work was funded by drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline.

The researchers, who published their results in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society, collected medical and prescription information from more than 9,500 Medicare beneficiaries who had survived a heart attack.

Within one month of leaving the hospital, 59 percent of people filled a prescription for one of two kinds of blood pressure drugs, 51 percent filled a prescription for a beta-blocker, 54 percent for a statin and 46 percent for clopidogrel.

Overall, during the first year and a half following the heart attack, adherence to the drugs ranged from 37 percent to 50 percent.

Zuckerman said she was surprised to see the use of these drugs being so low, knowing that they are a standard part of care for heart attack patients.

Patients who refilled their prescriptions - except for those for beta-blockers, a drug that has become increasingly controversial - were less likely to die early or experience a stroke, heart failure or another heart.

People who filled all or almost all of their statin prescriptions, for instance, saw a 29-percent reduction in the risk of dying early or having another serious health event compared with those who rarely took the drugs.

It's impossible to say for certain that those health benefits can be chalked up to the medicine alone, since people who fill their prescriptions regularly may also be more health conscious overall or have other characteristics that could make a difference.

Still, Zuckerman, who is on a contract with GlaxoSmithKline, said the study confirms the drug benefits seen in clinical trials.

"It suggests that if we could improve the use of these drugs, have people take them more regularly, that we could potentially improve outcomes," she told Reuters Health.

How to do that isn't clear, though.

"There are very few known effective interventions for medication adherence," said Dr. John Rumsfeld, the national director of cardiology for the U.S. Veterans Health Administration, who was not involved in the study.

In addition, it's not entirely clear why patients don't always stick with their medicine.

In some cases, instructions to patients might not be clear or they might lack health insurance or face high copays for drugs. A study out earlier this week, for instance, shows lower copays on certain heart drugs may boost adherence somewhat (see Reuters Health report of October 3, 2012).

In other cases, patients might experience side effects on the drugs. And then there's the role of the patient.

"Both physicians and non-physician care givers, we don't, I think, understand the natural inertia for patients is to stop taking their drugs -whether it's because of co-pays or side effects or 'I just forgot' or 'I don't feel bad, so why do I have to take these five pills,'" said Eagle.

Eagle said that in his experience, people often discontinue a drug because they receive a good bill of health, not understanding that the drugs are important to maintaining that good health.

"We need a system that explicitly asks the question, 'Am I on the right medications, what are they for, do I have refills?'" he added.

Rumsfeld called for more research to help patients stay on prescribed medications. He said doctors are great at helping people survive a heart attack, but not so good at following up after the immediate crisis.

"The vast majority of patients survive heart attacks - it's about stabilization and initiation of key therapies - and I think what we need to now focus on is maintenance and sustainment of treatment over time," he said.

SOURCE: http://bit.ly/T5mhux Journal of the American Geriatrics Society, online September 24, 2012.

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MylesBAstor

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Steve - compliance is an issue period with any prescription drug. :(
 

MylesBAstor

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you're preaching to the choir Myles :)

It's just that we're talking one's heart here post infarction and a well established way to increase one's longevity

Oh I know and couldn't believe this was news to you!

Steve, it's sad but it's proven that knowledge doesn't change human behavior :( Otherwise, we would have cured the obesity epidemic a decade ago.

How about patients who suffered a heart attack or lung cancer and continue to smoke??? :(
 

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When I see patients for a post-op, I have them bring their prescription bottles with them. When they have too many pills remaining, I admonish them for not following instructions! I like to prescribe meds that can be taken the fewest times during the day to help the patients with compliance.
 

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Could it be side effects?

Bruce
 

amirm

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Could it be side effects?

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That is definitely one factor. My father passed away likely from not taking his heart medication. Every time I visited him he would talk about how he had changed his medication on own, was instead eating more of this or that which he had read would be good for his heart/health. I would keep talking him into it but the message would not last.

I wonder what role the Internet plays in all of this now with people reading about alternatives that likely don't work.
 

Steve Williams

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I wonder what role the Internet plays in all of this now with people reading about alternatives that likely don't work.


we have had some very interesting discussions here on that very issue
 

treitz3

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I wonder what role the Internet plays in all of this now with people reading about alternatives that likely don't work.

Disastrous role, I would imagine. Heartburn? Yeah, the internet may help along with organic apple cider vinegar. Preventing another heart attack? I'll bow out on that one. I know whom I'd trust.

Tom
 

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Failure to take the drugs can be as simple as people not having am/pm pill boxes that layout all the meds for the week. It is easy to forget them when you take 4 to 5 meds per day out of the bottle. I am on a statin, beta blocker, acid reducer and an allergy med. prior to getting a pill box I would miss doses and or not take them at the right time like statins which should be taken in the evening to be most effective. I am only 50. I can only imagine being a senior, how much easier it would be to forget to pill up.
 

MylesBAstor

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Failure to take the drugs can be as simple as people not having am/pm pill boxes that layout all the meds for the week. It is easy to forget them when you take 4 to 5 meds per day out of the bottle. I am on a statin, beta blocker, acid reducer and an allergy med. prior to getting a pill box I would miss doses and or not take them at the right time like statins which should be taken in the evening to be most effective. I am only 50. I can only imagine being a senior, how much easier it would be to forget to pill up.

It's a Multi-faceted problem.
 

Phelonious Ponk

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Well, I am a senior, according to that free cup of coffee I could get at Hardee's this morning. I've read the stats (on the internet). I take my meds. I've looked the stats up (survival rates of people with my conditions with and without the meds) to show them to my wife. The internet is worse than information/false hope about "cures" that don't work. It is up to its ears in people who have decided that meds like statins are harmful and should be avoided for health reasons. Information is powerful, and it goes both ways.

Tim
 

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It's a hard problem for me to fathom. I've been on Lipitor for most of the last 15 years or so -- history of heart disease in the family and my cholesterol is naturally high. Perhaps a much older person might have different thoughts (I'm 50), but I was religious about taking something that likely would extend my life. Any other attitude is nuts to me.

As for the Internet as a source for health info, makes me want to scream when I hear it from people. . Do you really think that some noodling around on the net trumps several years of medical study and all the professional experience of a good Doc? Dunno, maybe this is just a modern form of natural selection.
 

MylesBAstor

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Well, I am a senior, according to that free cup of coffee I could get at Hardee's this morning. I've read the stats (on the internet). I take my meds. I've looked the stats up (survival rates of people with my conditions with and without the meds) to show them to my wife. The internet is worse than information/false hope about "cures" that don't work. It is up to its ears in people who have decided that meds like statins are harmful and should be avoided for health reasons. Information is powerful, and it goes both ways.

Tim

Actually information isn't powerful. That's the problem. Lot's of studies now document that.

But here's a bigger problem. Today, there's no one drug that's going to cure or help 100 pct of the patients afflicted with a given disease. Maybe only 20 or 30 pct would be helped but the statistical numbers needed to show that are overwhelming. So who's to really say that if a drug works for me, it will work for you or vice versa. One of the fundamental tenets of physiology is individuality.
 

Phelonious Ponk

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Actually information isn't powerful. That's the problem. Lot's of studies now document that.

But here's a bigger problem. Today, there's no one drug that's going to cure or help 100 pct of the patients afflicted with a given disease. Maybe only 20 or 30 pct would be helped but the statistical numbers needed to show that are overwhelming. So who's to really say that if a drug works for me, it will work for you or vice versa. One of the fundamental tenets of physiology is individuality.

Whih is why these meds need to be tried, results need to be monitored and adjustments need to be made under the direction of a doctor. Unfortunately the possession of a medical degree does not guarantee quality care. I've had great docs and guys who were just checking off the standard boxes and billing the insurance company. It's a fool's game to take personal control of diagnosis and treatment. It's no less foolish not to take personal responsibility for finding the best care you can get.

Tim
 

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