Just When You Thought You've Seen It All

mep

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I don't believe anyone is saying that the glue fixes damaged grooves whereas other forms of cleaning don't.
And I never said they did. I’m the one that said that glue isn’t going to repair physical damage to records and lots of noisy records have groove damage.


But the glue method will remove a substantial amount of crud in and on the grooves where (in some cases) multiple cleaning passes would be necessary. And it's not so time consuming, since you're not standing there waiting for the glue to dry. Just apply it, walk away, come back the next day and peel it off. Not a big deal.
And then come back the next day and repeat the process for the other side of the LP. No thanks. I would rather throw that hunk of junk in the trash and buy another copy that lived a better life.

I really hate to potentially contaminate my RCM cleaning brushes, RCM turntable and environment by working with extremely dirty records.
Me too, which is why I would throw them away. Unless you are dealing with a super-rare valuable record that belonged to your grandmother’s uncle’s cousin twice removed, I’m giving it the heave-ho.

You naysayers have little to contribute except that you don't have any experience with it. --Bill
I’m not a naysayer, I’m just saying I can’t be bothered to take a record that is ruined and attempt to make it less ruined. My idea of fun isn’t spreading glue on a LP, waiting 24 hours to peel it off, repeat the process on the other side, and hope it sounds a little better. A couple clicks of the mouse, and I can probably find a really good copy.
 

Hxt1

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I tried it on a $2 copy of 'after the gold rush' years ago.
That $2 still sounds better than the $29 re-issue I bought to replace it with.
I wasnt't afraid to try it, of course.
I have to say, some tend to treat audio as a religion... Stunning.
Having a spirited debate over a technique, process, or practice is all fine and dandy... IF youv'e actually tried, and tested said technique. Otherwise your'e just arguing opinion against experience.
Starts to look silly after a bit.
Can we hear from an expert audiophile who's actually tried it.... and didn't find it effective?
I see two camps here: the folks who have tried it, say it works, and like the results; And the folks who haven't tried it.
 

jdandy2

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I'm pretty certain one could have played these ... though with noise transferred from the now clean vinyl.

Soundproof.......The hardened glue you removed is a positive impression of the vinyl grooves, mountains not valleys, similar to what would be considered a stamper. They would not playable.
 

FrantzM

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I tried it on a $2 copy of 'after the gold rush' years ago.
That $2 still sounds better than the $29 re-issue I bought to replace it with.
I wasnt't afraid to try it, of course.
I have to say, some tend to treat audio as a religion... Stunning.
Having a spirited debate over a technique, process, or practice is all fine and dandy... IF youv'e actually tried, and tested said technique. Otherwise your'e just arguing opinion against experience.
Starts to look silly after a bit.
Can we hear from an expert audiophile who's actually tried it.... and didn't find it effective?
I see two camps here: the folks who have tried it, say it works, and like the results; And the folks who haven't tried it.
So True
 

sombunya

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I bought an Aynsley Dunbar wlp on Blue Thumb. Looked beautiful, even in bright sunlight. Sounded like bacon and eggs.

I tried the glue method using Tite-bond. Applied it, let it dry until clear. Peeled right off leaving what appeared to be a perfect negative impression of the disc.

If it helped, it was a minor improvement, if any.

Obviously I have no idea if the artifacts I heard are from debris or groove damage. It did come off cleanly and certainly didn't hurt the sound.

I wouldn't try it on decent disc as a matter of course, I just tried it on that one because I really had nothing to lose. I also tried it on an old KING RECORDS disc, the really fragile kind that don't bend. Came off cleanly from that one too, although I'm not really prepared to try it on my Midnighters LP on Federal 548.

As for having any irreplaceable vinyl records, out of my 2000 or so I can only think of one that I have that truly could not be replaced.

This one.
 
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trh8654

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If one wants to make a fortune, he would be better served figuring out how to re-virginize something else.

Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. :rolleyes:
I've been working on this, and have a theory that I think will work. problem is getting test subjects. So far, no luck.