Why do we love vinyl more than digital?
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Why don't you do the experiment Allen Sides has and take a live digital feed and listen to it at 0 and -20. Tell us what you hear. It ain't pretty.
For the majority of people, I agree. But they're not seeing it as bad themselves or they'd be upgrading to my DAC
And you have to wonder what reference those people had before they settled for 16/44. There is no doubt in my mind that for the majority of people, 16/44 is the best recorded sound they ever heard.
Nope, it's me telling the truth as I see it. See, you are tied exclusively to digital and you don't hear analog on a regular basis in your system. Your only reference is digital. Some of us have multiple sources and hear both regularly so we are always comparing them back and forth. If you only have 16/44.1, you have "settled," you just don't know it.
Well if you're seeing formats as reality then sure. That's a well-known perceptual distortion called 'mistaking the map for the territory'.
'Tied' is a perceptual distortion here. Its true that I don't see the need for analog in my system and therefore don't hear it at all.
And as far as I'm aware you're not using the right (i.e. most transparent) DACs. But do correct me if my impression is in error please.
More smoke
Sorry not that I know of. Allen told me about it when we talked at CES. BTW, Allen knows his stuff
http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/about-allen.php
and a little history of United/Western studios:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Western_Recorders
http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/about-allen.php
and a little history of United/Western studios:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Western_Recorders
Not so much interested in the credentials of the experimenter, more the experimental details. If its a scientific experiment then it must be possible to re-create it right?
Sorry not that I know of. Allen told me about it when we talked at CES. BTW, Allen knows his stuff
http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/about-allen.php
and a little history of United/Western studios:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Western_Recorders
It is hard to do better as the very definition of anecdotal evidence.
It's hard to better as the very definition of closed mindedness.
And I'll take Allen's word over practically anyone's here. There's very few in the industry who have more hands on experience with digital recording than Allen. And let's see: have you designed any microphones or speakers lately Frantz-not to mention winning two Grammy awards? No Frantz you're out of your league.
http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Sterling/ST6050
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/10/22/high-resolution-reference-monitors/
http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/news.php
I think the man knows WTF he's talking about.
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they said that around '83-'84 and a deaf person could tell LPs were superior, ok I exaggerate. so you're unsentimental for the LP format and love for the music is secondary. the primary importance here are measurements and not how its sounds (asumming you were alive and owned Lps in the '70s and 80s). im not baiting you, im just trying to understand why you cant enjoy both or did i missinterpret something?
A little more complicated. I lost my record collections twice. I had ripped part of my CD colection and the hard Drive was saved in the second event. I had no choice but building back from scratch. Fortunately I got part of my dad's record collection and some records from another person. So I have some records and I do listen to them when I have the time.
I am however no longer of the opinion that analog is inherently superior to digital anymore especially after having been fooled and have fooled people with needle drops IMO a test of how digital can be "transparent" when the bias triggers are removed.
I don't see myself returning to analog as the main source of my musical enjoyment. I am vested in digital and look forward to its getting better. I am seriously trying to get what the NOS DACs are about . Opus 111 is one of the few people pushing this. I, for one am not entirely convinced about the lack of dynamics of Oversampling DAC. I have been listening to a Berkeley DAC and the darn thing is exemplary musical. it could be true that a NOS is better I simply don't know until I investigate. Now do I get the Berkeley DAC or listen to other DACs, I would like to listen to a NOS DAC in the Berkeley price range or lower (waiting on your design Opus
) .. I have heard great things about the Phazure when it works but it seems to be quite a buggy product, I am not sure I want to get into that just yet
Unsentimental yes but I'm unsure how you come to the conclusion that my love for the music is secondary? Do please explain some more?
No, I'm not a measurements guy - just go over to one of my threads in the Frugal department and see for yourself. Sure measurements are helpful in the design process, but no, unimportant for how things sound. Ears are our guide to what measurements are relevant, and in the main the current measurements of digital are largely irrelevant. I can enjoy vinyl, have enjoyed vinyl, just at present find digital is more fun because its so much better bang-for-the-buck.
Myles you suggested an experience that you did not conduct and for which you have no reference and I am supposed to take the mention of it in the name of open mindedness as substantiation? Really
That's guru-fication, not science. You have a PhD so would your supervisor have taught you such a thing? Or do you apply different standards to audio than you did in your research?
Willy-wanging.
So why has he not documented his experiment for us to replicate? Why all the personality deflections coming in thick and fast? Not science as I was taught it.
(waiting on your design Opus
Its asides like that that encourage me to get on with the work, otherwise I get distracted with chasing down new ideas in audio
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