Graham Phantom Elite

rockitman · Jan 12, 2013

More info and a pic.
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/graham-engineering-introduces-new-phantom-elite-tonearm

rockitman · Jan 12, 2013

Great look.

hvbias · Jan 13, 2013

Any Supreme II owners upgrading?

Peter Breuninger · Jan 13, 2013

I have of video of the arm with Bob talking about it. I'll edit and post it in the first round of videos. I also have video of that $35,000 arm in Gary's rooms with a video of the designer telling all.

rockitman · Jan 13, 2013

hvbias said:
Any Supreme II owners upgrading?

There isn't a supreme 2 from my understanding and yes, when the elite becomes available, I am getting one.

hvbias · Jan 13, 2013

rockitman said:
There isn't a supreme 2 from my understanding and yes, when the elite becomes available, I am getting one.

Ah I meant Phantom II

Tubedoctor · Feb 21, 2013

Is there a huge difference between phantom 2 and supreme?

thazeldean · Mar 1, 2013

Tubedoctor said:
Is there a huge difference between phantom 2 and supreme?

I had my arm upgraded from the II to the Supreme. The new alignment gauge finally arrived this week and I checked the cartridge alignment. The upgrade is significant especially once the cartridge is setup correctly. Alot more bass. Fantastic midrange and liquid highs.

stargate · Mar 1, 2013

Is the elite better then the Phantom ll---if one had the nordosts odin cable installed in the Phantom ll- well you wouldn't say it was or could get better with the installation of an elite tonearm which uses the same Odin cabling in it's housing. so we set out to find out the differences--and in the end this is what my friend wrote to Bob Graham-
Hi Bob,

I was at Bobby's today as he swapped his Phantom Supreme with the Phantom Elite. Although I understand that his Supreme had already been upgraded with Nordost Odin wiring and although he kept the same arm wand, the difference was simply amazing. The ambience retrieval, the differentiation of instrumental timbres and the overall transparency of the presentation jumped to a completely different level. I do not know what else has been changed in the Elite besides the wiring, but whatever improvements you did to the arm are easily audible. I just wanted to let you know that I am really impressed!

My friend does not own a TT --but after the end of the day- he had no choice..none-yes he has the best digital I ever heard- playing out with the Vandersteens 7 with audio research 250 with emm dsd downloads and yet he had no choice..

rockitman · Mar 1, 2013

stargate said:
I do not know what else has been changed in the Elite besides the wiring, but whatever improvements you did to the arm are easily audible. I just wanted to let you know that I am really impressed!

I believe the inverted pivot bearing on the elite is more precision machined than that of the Supreme. In the TechDas thread I beieve Bob eluded to that fact.

dmnc02 · Mar 1, 2013

stargate said:
Is the elite better then the Phantom ll---if one had the nordosts odin cable installed in the Phantom ll- well you wouldn't say it was or could get better with the installation of an elite tonearm which uses the same Odin cabling in it's housing. so we set out to find out the differences--and in the end this is what my friend wrote to Bob Graham-
Hi Bob,

I was at Bobby's today as he swapped his Phantom Supreme with the Phantom Elite. Although I understand that his Supreme had already been upgraded with Nordost Odin wiring and although he kept the same arm wand, the difference was simply amazing. The ambience retrieval, the differentiation of instrumental timbres and the overall transparency of the presentation jumped to a completely different level. I do not know what else has been changed in the Elite besides the wiring, but whatever improvements you did to the arm are easily audible. I just wanted to let you know that I am really impressed!

My friend does not own a TT --but after the end of the day- he had no choice..none-yes he has the best digital I ever heard- playing out with the Vandersteens 7 with audio research 250 with emm dsd downloads and yet he had no choice..

I did not expect what I wrote to Bob Graham to end up on this forum, but the difference was indeed striking. BTW, Bobby (stargate) is a friend and the owner of the TechDas Air Force One in the video posted on AV Showrooms. And as he says, after being exposed to the AF1 in his system, I had no choice but to order one. My AF1 should be shipping soon from Japan.

rockitman · Mar 1, 2013

dmnc02 said:
My AF1 should be shipping soon from Japan.

Congrats ! The suspense of the wait must be gripping

dmnc02 · Mar 1, 2013

rockitman said:
Congrats ! The suspense of the wait must be gripping

Thank you. The wait was fine for the first few weeks, but now that we are getting close I can think of little else.

JackD201 · Mar 1, 2013

Congrats too! My AF1 is shipping out next week.

I was told I'll have to wait quite a while for my Elite so I'll have to make do with one of my Phantoms in the meantime.

dmnc02 · Mar 1, 2013

JackD201 said:
Congrats too! My AF1 is shipping out next week.

I was told I'll have to wait quite a while for my Elite so I'll have to make do with one of my Phantoms in the meantime.

And congrats to you, Jack! I am also hoping mine will ship next week, although I have not received a confirmation yet. Our tables are probably in the same production batch. Like you, I have been told that I might have to wait a bit for the Elite, but Bob Graham has offered a Supreme to get me going.

JackD201 · Mar 1, 2013

You lucky guy you!

thazeldean · Mar 1, 2013

I concur with the others, you are one lucky guy. Does anyone know if it is possible to upgrade from the Supreme to the Elite. On the website it quotes $9,600 for the Elite an extra $3,600. Does anyone know the upgrade cost as this seems alot.
Tony

JackD201 · Mar 2, 2013

I don't think you can upgrade from a Supreme to an Elite. You might be able to trade a Supreme in for one depending on your dealer.

thazeldean · Mar 2, 2013

Unfortunately there is no dealer in Australia that I am aware of.

JackD201 · Mar 20, 2013

Finalized (and formalized) my order for an Elite with 2 extra L wands last night. Ordered a CA GF Supreme since they are from the same dealer. Carts on the three wands will be the GF, Atlas and XV-1t.

Now we wait.........................

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