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Xs Phono is due out in September according to Pass.

A better chassis that is less susceptible to magnetic fields, noise, RFI etc. At least 3 inputs, a choice of zero capacitance and 100k loading would be really nice to have.

better sound is a given :D
 
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The aluminum chassis itself is a source of much of the opposing magnetic field.
 

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I understand this is very system-dependant, and even location-dependant (where your house is, and where you place the components too), but at my place, I couldn't get the hum to go away, no matter what I did.

I live in a very crowded region, with lots of buildings (and antennae), so most likely there are tons of interference around me. But since the hum improved when I placed the power supply as far away from the main piece as possible, it seemed to me that the isolation between the two components could be improved.


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As stated before, aluminum's permeability is the same as air's, virtually =1. Hence the hum depending on the surrounding environment. A more appropriate material would be carbon stainless steel (perm=100); aluminum is just a cost cutting measure.
 

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I have a meter I use whenever I have a question on placement of components, in my system. It is the "Trifield" meter. I've found it very useful for measuring magnetic field radiation, especially for gear with large transformers. I have (2) Platinum power line conditioners. These each have a 2.5 KV transformer. I used to just place one on the bottom of my equipment rack.
When I got this meter, I measured the magnetic field above the conditioner. It measured 100 milligauss directly above the conditioner, and the measurement dropped off slowly until past 24" above the conditioner,
where it dropped off to almost zero milligauss. All I do now is place the Platinum power next to my rack, the magnetic field is not present off to the side of the conditioner.....
I should mention this meter became very popular for consumers concerned about electric radiation from "Smart" electric meters, etc. I payed $100.00 for mine. Here's a link:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tri...la:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb
 

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I have a meter I use whenever I have a question on placement of components, in my system. It is the "Trifield" meter. I've found it very useful for measuring magnetic field radiation, especially for gear with large transformers. I have (2) Platinum power line conditioners. These each have a 2.5 KV transformer. I used to just place one on the bottom of my equipment rack.
When I got this meter, I measured the magnetic field above the conditioner. It measured 100 milligauss directly above the conditioner, and the measurement dropped off slowly until past 24" above the conditioner,
where it dropped off to almost zero milligauss. All I do now is place the Platinum power next to my rack, the magnetic field is not present off to the side of the conditioner.....
I should mention this meter became very popular for consumers concerned about electric radiation from "Smart" electric meters, etc. I payed $100.00 for mine. Here's a link:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tri...la:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

What does that have to do with the XS Pre ? Do you have one ?
 

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What does that have to do with the XS Pre ? Do you have one ?

I have the XP-30. The posts above mine are discussing the issues with aluminum chassis & remote & separate power supplies.
I'm giving my experience dealing with both.
 

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I have the XP-30. The posts above mine are discussing the issues with aluminum chassis & remote & separate power supplies.
I'm giving my experience dealing with both.

Okay, I mis-understood. The XS pre will be replacing my XP-30 in the not too distant future. Then I am done pretty much ;)
 

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Has anyone actually compared the Xs to the XP-30 (side by side)? I had and LOVED the XP-30 but would love to experience the the Xs preamp.
 
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Has anyone actually compared the Xs to the XP-30 (side by side)? I had and LOVED the XP-30 but would love to experience the the Xs preamp.

What a coincidence, I was thinking of asking this same question.
 

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What a coincidence, I was thinking of asking this same question.

Great minds think alike. :)


Sorry Joe, but I don't understand what you mean. What does "I had and LOVED the XP-30" mean?

Hi Peter,

I owned the XP-30 and sold it. I am sorry that I don't have it now. It's a great preamp. I was thinking about getting the Xs, but price-wise not sure I could make it work for me at this point. If the Xs is truly head and shoulders above the XP-30 then I may order one.

Can someone tell me the retail price on the Xs?
 

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If the Xs is truly head and shoulders above the XP-30 then I may order one.

You should have kept the XP-30.... I highly doubt it's "head and shoulders above the XP-30". I'm not saying it might be slightly better, but it would have to be a wide margin better for me to change. Now if it included a phono and/or tape stage.... then all bets are off!
 

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I totally agree Bruce. In hindsight it was a big mistake for me.

You should have kept the XP-30.... I highly doubt it's "head and shoulders above the XP-30". I'm not saying it might be slightly better, but it would have to be a wide margin better for me to change.
 

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Has anyone actually compared the Xs to the XP-30 (side by side)? I had and LOVED the XP-30 but would love to experience the the Xs preamp.

I had them side by side.

The Xs is significantly better but it also depends on the rest of your system. When I listened to the Xs Pre amp and XP30 with XA100.5s, the differences were there but not as clearly as when the Xs300s were on the other end.

The Xs Pre amp is more open and natural. Better bass definition. The XP30 sounds like it has a little glare in the midrange and highs in comparison.
Soundstage is better defined as in your ability to hear individual players in their own space on a real or imaginary stage is further enhanced with the Xs in comparison to the XP30. I'm in my office right now. Can't remember everything.

As always, everyone has an opinion. What's important to me or what I see as being worth the extra money might not be as important to someone else.
The XP30 is an excellent preamp but the Xs is better in every regard. Is it worth more than double the price of the XP30?
 

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