WA-Quantum Chips

Odyno · Dec 19, 2012

Sorry if someone already posted on it!
I ran in to an add on WA-Quantum Chips

Is there any one here that actually give those sticker a shot in their system?

JackD201 · Dec 19, 2012

Will the price give you sticker shock?

Come on sombody gimme a rimshot!

MylesBAstor · Dec 19, 2012

I reviewed the Quantum chips used on fuses for PFO.

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue63/furutech.htm

cjfrbw · Dec 19, 2012

Is this where the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle becomes the "there's one born every minute" Certainty Principle?

MylesBAstor · Dec 19, 2012

Laugh all you want.

cjfrbw · Dec 19, 2012

The only problem is if you know when it is on, you don't know where it is on. If you know where it is on, you don't know when it is on.

NorthStar · Dec 20, 2012

-- Sounds like a Bond's (007) line.

FrantzM · Dec 20, 2012

MylesBAstor said:
Laugh all you want.

Oh Yes! We are

HedgeHog · Jan 26, 2013

Has anyone tried these chips on a fuse? I'm guessing it's a circle that gets stuck on one end of the fuse. If so, which end would one choose for those directional fuses like the HiFi Tuning Supreme?

Andre Marc · Jan 26, 2013

Odyno said:
Sorry if someone already posted on it!
I ran in to an add on WA-Quantum Chips
View attachment 7104
Is there any one here that actually give those sticker a shot in their system?

Buy more music.

Odyno · Jan 26, 2013

What make you think that I don't already buy lot's of music?

Andre Marc · Jan 27, 2013

Odyno said:
What make you think that I don't already buy lot's of music?

I am sure you do! But use what ever budget for chips, fuses, pucks, cones, and other wizardry on more tunes!

I'm going to a live performance tonight..maybe I can put one of those Quantum chips on my forehead to see if it improves the sound.

Odyno · Jan 27, 2013

Keep us posted on the result

Tubedoctor · Jan 28, 2013

I can share MylesBAstors results with these chips.

Orb · Jan 28, 2013

More seriously but still a bit tongue in cheek....
Hey why not put one chip on each side of the head for a person using a hearing aid and see if the music improves

Far better imo than using on your own forehead

Now being more serious, unfortunately it would be a pig to test by oneself due to a bias type effect that making a change we model-predict a change in our heads, so it is possible that our perception is changed even if the sound does not.
JA knows a lot more about this as I remember discussing on Stereophile forum a long time ago and he could name what this effect is called as I had forgetten the name, funny enough forgotten the bloody name again now

And not talking about expectation bias-placebo, some wrongly lump all of this together on other forums.

So either they work affecting sound or perceptively work, either way I am sure Myles did hear a difference and is still of interest IMO, no matter if difference was real or perceptive.
At least they are not charging stupid money like some of those ideas out there, not naming them lol.
Cheers
Orb

FrantzM · Jan 28, 2013

Orb said:
More seriously but still a bit tongue in cheek....
Hey why not put one chip on each side of the head for a person using a hearing aid and see if the music improves
Far better imo than using on your own forehead

Now being more serious, unfortunately it would be a pig to test by oneself due to a bias type effect that making a change we model-predict a change in our heads, so it is possible that our perception is changed even if the sound does not.
JA knows a lot more about this as I remember discussing on Stereophile a long time ago and he could name what this effect is called as I had forgetten the name, funny enough forgotten the bloody name again now
And not talking about expectation bias-placebo, some wrongly lump all of this together on other forums.

So either they work affecting sound or perceptively work, either way I am sure Myles did hear a difference and is still of interest IMO, no matter if difference was real or perceptive.
At least they are not charging stupid money like some of those ideas out there, not naming them lol.
Cheers
Orb

Welcome back! Orb!

Long time no read your thoughtful and gentle posts. You remain the same: Knowledgeable, gentle , fair and balanced.

Ok I am not you

Whenever I see the word "Quantum" used on an Audio product I run away from it. This product is one of many that populate the High End Audio ecosystem. Since for the most part these do nothing, they are innocuous enough to not cause most people concern but they don't have any positive effect on the perception of our hobby creating the impression that it is at best an affectation but too often it is seen as a farce or quackery.
As usual a few audiophiles will buy some, enough for the manufacturers to make some profits healthy or otherwise, pay some bills, recoup advertising money and prepare themselves to be quickly forgotten, replaced by another tweak based on even more un-explainable pseudo-science. Some audiophiles, of course, will claim it provides blacker background than the previous model and it is worth its often substantial price. This will go on until our generation leaves this plane of existence. I can't predict what the future generations will do but so far we are the audiophile market, we the over 50 years old...

Orb · Jan 28, 2013

LOL thank you,
impossible to stay away

Still a great forum and glad to be active again.
Cheers
Orb

microstrip · Jan 28, 2013

IMHO we can assume that almost all posts in an audio forum trying to use the word quantum in a way related to quantum mechanics or quantum physics, unless it pretends to explain the thermionic effect or the behavior of solid state devices, are bogus.

However we can not consider that a device that misuses or abusively uses the word quantum in its marketing does not change the sound quality. Many excellent devices commit this type of sin, and we are free to exclude them in order to punish their developers. But I feel that those who want to play the chastisers will sometimes be the real looser.

FrantzM · Jan 28, 2013

microstrip said:
IMHO we can assume that almost all posts in an audio forum trying to use the word quantum in a way related to quantum mechanics or quantum physics, unless it pretends to explain the thermionic effect or the behavior of solid state devices, are bogus.

However we can not consider that a device that misuses or abusively uses the word quantum in its marketing does not change the sound quality. Many excellent devices commit this type of sin, and we are free to exclude them in order to punish their developers. But I feel that those who want to play the chastisers will sometimes be the real looser.

microstrip

ok.

There can't be progress without criticism. As for your tendency to defend anything and everything High End even when they defy all logic, known Science and your own beliefs, I don't sincerely know what to make of it.
"De Guerre lasse" a French Expression , I am not too sure how to translate in English but you may well understand ....

You win

microstrip · Jan 28, 2013

FrantzM said:
microstrip

ok.

There can't be progress without criticism. As for your tendency to defend anything and everything High End even when they defy all logic, known Science and your own beliefs, I don't sincerely know what to make of it.
"De Guerre lasse" a French Expression , I am not too sure how to translate in English but you may well understand ....

You win

Frantz,

My French is much better than my English, I would love to debate audio quoting Camus in the native language - much more fun than quoting Toole. Effectively I read the Françoise Sagan book in french, at the time it was launched I appreciate her books and read a lot.

I find very interesting that you bring the "De Guerre Lasse" argument. You never backed your favorites with any science - only with your long and interesting experience. It is the only logic you use to defend your loved options. But you like to use science as a weapon to debate others beliefs. My beliefs on audio are very modest. Anyone wanting to explore my sometimes careless posts will understand it. But they are enough to have an open mind and understand that, considering the limitations of actual science in explaining high-end stereo audio, its systematic use, mixed with technical ignorance is not the proper way of debating high-end.

Most of the time my position is just being very prudent when saying it is impossible. And I know I should separate individual cases from the general conclusion. Because all we have in WBF is just that - individual opinions.

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