An entry level sytem

Gregadd · Nov 14, 2012

I decided to make a suggestion for an entry level system.it will be a:

integrated amp
outboard dac
mini-monitor
digital source(computercables

later a phone section might be added.

Our friends at Stereophile have comprised a list of integrated amps. A good place to start.
http://www.stereophile.com/category/integrated-amp-reviews

Gregadd · Nov 14, 2012

My all time favorite is the Proac tabette

opus111 · Nov 15, 2012

+1 for your ProAc suggestion Greg - I've been a very long-term fan of the tablette. My very first hifi speakers were Celefs and I upgraded about eight years later to ProAc Studio Ones.

On integrated amps, here's a longish thread of interest - http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/42260-integrated-amps-an-addicts-guide/

NorthStar · Nov 15, 2012

-- Those speakers are real nice Greg, and have great reviews too.

Where are they made? :b ...England?

opus111 · Nov 15, 2012

Yes, a long standing UK brand - http://www.proac-loudspeakers.com/html_files/ContactUs.php

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

The Proacs' forte is its' ability to image. It is a true point source.Specifications

Nominal Impedance
8 ohms
Recommended Amplifiers
10 to 120 Watts
Frequency Response
35hz to 30Khz
Sensitivity
86.5 dB linear for 1 watt at 1 metre
Bass/Midrange
5 7/8" (150mm) Polymer Impregnated Kevlar cone with black acrylic phase plug
Tweeter
3/4" (20mm) ProAc silk dome with damped front plate. Mirror image offset configuration.
Crossover
Finest components on dedicated circuit board. Multistrand oxygen-free cabling throughout, split for optional bi-wiring/ bi-amping
Dimensions
Height: 10 5/8" (270mm), Width: 6" (150mm), Depth: 9 3/4" (235mm) including grille
Weight
5 Kgs each
Mode
Stand/Shelf mounting
Grille
Acoustically transparent crimplene
Finish
Standard Finishes:
Black Ash, Mahogany, Cherry, Maple.
Premium Finishes:
Rosewood, Ebony.

*Premium Finishes to

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

http://www.stereophile.com/content/cayin-sp-10a-integrated-amplifier

Cayin SP10A.A wood cabinet and point to point wiring.

audioguy · Nov 15, 2012

That cabinet reminds me of my first amp from the 60's: A Scott model tube amp with (drum roll please) 12.5 watts per channel!!

Love that look!

flez007 · Nov 15, 2012

Naim Unity 2

http://www.naimaudio.com/hifi-products/naimuniti

Robh3606 · Nov 15, 2012

Looks nice but:

Summing up the Cayin SP-10A's measured performance is difficult; it must be remembered that this is a relatively affordably priced product when compared against the similar-looking Leben, Luxman, and Quad integrated amplifiers that Art Dudley reviewed in November 2011. But I am concerned about its 4 ohm tap's curious instability and lack of distortion-free power. As Bob wrote, the amplifier just "ran out dynamic gas" when asked to play loudly with rock music from this output.—John Atkinson

Rob

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

I like Naim It should go well with fellow Brit Proac. What is MSRP?

I want to suggest Harmon HK 990 that has a phono section. it was reviewed in Stereophile by our own Kal Robinson.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/harman-kardon-hk-990-integrated-amplifier

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

Robh3606 said:
Looks nice but:

Summing up the Cayin SP-10A's measured performance is difficult; it must be remembered that this is a relatively affordably priced product when compared against the similar-looking Leben, Luxman, and Quad integrated amplifiers that Art Dudley reviewed in November 2011. But I am concerned about its 4 ohm tap's curious instability and lack of distortion-free power. As Bob wrote, the amplifier just "ran out dynamic gas" when asked to play loudly with rock music from this output.—John Atkinson

Rob

Good observation. No doubt the Cayin is a classic tube amp. My thought is a separate amp speaker combo for hard rock.

garylkoh · Nov 15, 2012

My vote for something current (it has USB digital input!) and looks modern would be:

http://www.aprilmusic.com/eng/main/sub02_01_03y.html

plus

http://www.elac.com/en/products/2.1-systems/2_1_MicroMagic/

We demo the Elacs in the Toronto AV show, and I thought that they had the best sat/sub integration I've ever heard. All we were driving them with was an iPod.

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

Thanks Gary. I've always been a fan of satellites since I experienced the M&K system.

Maybe you have some thoughts on reasonaby priced cables

garylkoh · Nov 15, 2012

Gregadd said:
Thanks Gary. I've always been a fan of satellites since I experienced the M&K system.

Maybe you have some thoughts on reasonaby priced cables

No thanks. I don't want to go there - every thread on cables on this forum turns toxic.

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

garylkoh said:
No thanks. I don't want to go there - every thread on cables on this forum turns toxic.

Don't worry Gary, I got your back.

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

How about Kimber Hero?
DUT: Hero 1m terminated with WBT-0144 RCA type connectors.
(Cp) parallel capacitance: 76.5 pF @ 20 kHz
(Ls) series inductance: 0.401 µH @ 20 kHz
(Rdc) dc loop resistance: 0.033 ?
(Xt) total reactance: 0.051 ? @ 20 kHz
Frequency response ± 0.5 dB dc - 8 MHz

DUT: Hero 1m terminated with XLR type connectors.
(Cp) parallel capacitance: 33.10 pF @ 20 kHz
(Ls) series inductance: 1.13 µH @ 20 kHz
(Rdc) dc loop resistance: 0.081 ?
(Xt) total reactance: 0.143 ? @ 20 kHz
Frequency response ± 0.5 dB dc - 8 MHz

NorthStar · Nov 15, 2012

Gregadd said:
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I want to suggest Harmon HK 990 that has a phono section. it was reviewed in Stereophile by our own Kal Robinson.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/harman-kardon-hk-990-integrated-amplifier

---- Yes. :b

Gregadd said:
How about Kimber Hero?
DUT: Hero 1m terminated with WBT-0144 RCA type connectors.
(Cp) parallel capacitance: 76.5 pF @ 20 kHz
(Ls) series inductance: 0.401 µH @ 20 kHz
(Rdc) dc loop resistance: 0.033 ?
(Xt) total reactance: 0.051 ? @ 20 kHz
Frequency response ± 0.5 dB dc - 8 MHz

DUT: Hero 1m terminated with XLR type connectors.
(Cp) parallel capacitance: 33.10 pF @ 20 kHz
(Ls) series inductance: 1.13 µH @ 20 kHz
(Rdc) dc loop resistance: 0.081 ?
(Xt) total reactance: 0.143 ? @ 20 kHz
Frequency response ± 0.5 dB dc - 8 MHz

---- And yes. :b ...I use KK Heros myself; very affordable 'performance' interconnects.

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

Peachtree Audio
http://www.stereophile.com/content/peachtree-idecco-da-integrated-amplifier

Gregadd · Nov 15, 2012

http://www.stereophile.com/content/my-favorite-budget-components-2011

For those of us who will never own TAD speakers.Yes it is a an Andrew Jones speaker cheaper than the cable by Audioquest.

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