ESL days are here again!

Andre Marc · Oct 17, 2012

In just received a review sample of the Martin Logan Ethos ESL.

Price is approx $7000 per pair.

http://www.martinlogan.com/ethos/index.php

Funny story...the delivery driver asked if these were "better than Bose".

When I told then price he thought I was insane. If he only new there are speaker cables that cost more.

c1ferrari · Oct 17, 2012

CooL

ESL's are here, too -- Beveridge Model II and Model III

But, the DALI's are in the main system, now

Have FUN

JackD201 · Oct 18, 2012

c1ferrari said:
ESL's are here, too -- Beveridge Model II and Model III
But, the DALI's are in the main system, now
Have FUN

It was my exposure to the Model III of a friend's dad that flipped the switch in my head at the tender age of 13. Cool!

c1ferrari · Oct 18, 2012

JackD201 said:
It was my exposure to the Model III of a friend's dad that flipped the switch in my head at the tender age of 13. Cool!

And you have taken a righteous path

Andre Marc · Oct 18, 2012

c1ferrari said:
ESL's are here, too -- Beveridge Model II and Model III
But, the DALI's are in the main system, now
Have FUN

Nice!

Early impressions are damn positive...pretty easy to set up too.

flez007 · Oct 18, 2012

Andre Marc said:
Nice!

Early impressions are damn positive...pretty easy to set up too.

What amp are you using Andre?

Andre Marc · Oct 18, 2012

flez007 said:
What amp are you using Andre?

I have a pair of brand new Onkyo Reference separates I am using, plus I will be using my ARC VS55 amp,

I might have another high powered SS amp coming to try as well.

flez007 · Oct 18, 2012

do the eat a lot of power?

Andre Marc · Oct 18, 2012

flez007 said:
do the eat a lot of power?

I have only had them installed for a day, so time will tell...but my hunch is that they don't need gobs of power.

audioguy · Oct 18, 2012

Andre Marc said:
Funny story...the delivery driver asked if these were "better than Bose".

When I told then price he thought I was insane. If he only new there are speaker cables that cost more.

As per the other thread -- and we wonder why high end audio is not doing well (and by the way, we are insane

)

flez007 · Oct 18, 2012

Andre Marc said:
I have only had them installed for a day, so time will tell...but my hunch is that they don't need gobs of power.

I am asking all this because I heard long time ago an original pair of ESLs powered with Rowland 5 amps - and the sound was great!

c1ferrari · Oct 19, 2012

Andre Marc said:
Nice!

Early impressions are damn positive...pretty easy to set up too.

Thanks, Andre. Perhaps, you can come over, sometime

JonFo · Oct 19, 2012

Andre Marc said:
I have a pair of brand new Onkyo Reference separates I am using, plus I will be using my ARC VS55 amp,

I might have another high powered SS amp coming to try as well.

Do try and get hold of an amp designed for ESLs, you can get a trial ESL amp from Sanders Sound Systems, it can really show what an ESL speaker is capable of.

Andre Marc · Oct 19, 2012

c1ferrari said:
Thanks, Andre. Perhaps, you can come over, sometime

Sure thing!

Andre Marc · Oct 19, 2012

JonFo said:
Do try and get hold of an amp designed for ESLs, you can get a trial ESL amp from Sanders Sound Systems, it can really show what an ESL speaker is capable of.

It is good idea. But this is a review sample. To be honest, the Logan's do fine with a variety of amps. I saw it at Magnolia with the McInthosh MC275, I have
heard them with the CJ Premier series, and the Stereophile review was done with Prima Luna, another tub amp, and a SIM SS amp.

ack · Oct 19, 2012

I would agree with JonFo. MartinLogans work best with a specific class of amplifier.

Andre Marc · Oct 19, 2012

ack said:
I would agree with JonFo. MartinLogans work best with a specific class of amplifier.

Specifically, what types?

ack · Oct 19, 2012

Andre Marc said:
Specifically, what types?

High power solid state, able to handle 1 ohm or lower (even if the feature a built-in powered subwoofer) - Sanders has also posted about this in the past, not sure if you have seen those posts. He doesn't want to sell you an amp as well, he wants to sell you the right amp.

BTW, ML now have electrostatic in-ear hones too.

Andre Marc · Oct 19, 2012

ack said:
High power solid state, able to handle 1 ohm or lower (even if the feature a built-in powered subwoofer) - Sanders has also posted about this in the past, not sure if you have seen those posts. He doesn't want to sell you an amp as well, he wants to sell you the right amp.

BTW, ML now have electrostatic in-ear hones too.

Gotcha. Well the Onkyo M-5000R has plenty of juice..160 wpc into 4 Ohms...

I can only work with what I have on hand as Robert Deutsch did with the Stereophile review.

For the record, ML did not make any specific suggestions on amplification.

I believe the new breed of ML products are much more amp friendly..and yes, the Ethos has an onboard sub.

ack · Oct 19, 2012

If you can, try something with 500W at 4ohms.

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