Biwired balanced interconnects

GaryProtein

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The whole thing sounds like BS to me.

A non-disclosure statement when you purchase not to tell how it's configured? That's ridiculous.

If I had just the slightest bit more interest, I'd buy the cheapest one they sell and post photos.

It sounds like snake oil. Besides, balanced interconnects aren't exactly carrying high current or voltage.
 

rockitman

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Wizard,

Those cables that use mystery boxes as you say are no mystery. They are about optimizing impedance differences between components and amps/ speakers. While I don't necessarily subscribe to that approach, it is a valid one. Doubling the wire gauge using your bi-wire approach does not mean doubling Siltech princess turns it into a double empress crown. In fact the wire is different being mono crystal silver for the double crown. I wouldn't want to mess with factory terminations/soldering either. I doubt any home DIY could terminate/solder to the exact degree and precision a hi end cable mfg'r could. Just me two cents.
 

Roysen

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It's not my design, and it has nothing do to by doubling the wire gauge.

My guess would be Horch Elektroakustik. The designer is the guy behind the Dynaudio Arbiter amplifier set and the Esoteric P-01/D-01 if I am not mistaken.

Thanks,
Roysen
 

kuribo

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What is the point of this thread? You can't give any details about the subject and you can't name the company involved...
 

garylkoh

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The special configuration requires six cables to work - two minus, two plus and two ground wires.

I've had good results using the Mogami Neglex Quad for this - two minus, two plus, and the shield ground.
http://www.mogamicable.com/category/bulk/microphone/quad/

I prefer 2893 for interconnects - even though 2534 is "beefier". With interconnects where there is negligible current carrying (well...... except for some strange designs), the lower capacitance AND inductance of the 2893 sounds to me cleaner and more transparent. It has higher capacitance between the plus/minus conductors and ground, but this is good to "filter away noise".

The Mogami's in bulk, and proper crimp termination (not solder) for the XLR connectors and I may never have to sell another interconnect again.
http://www.neutrik.com/zoolu-websit...mbly+Instruction+-+Crimp+XLR+Cable+Connectors
 

garylkoh

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I wouldn't want to mess with factory terminations/soldering either. I doubt any home DIY could terminate/solder to the exact degree and precision a hi end cable mfg'r could. Just me two cents.

It's easier than it looks.... you just need the right tools, and those are easily available in the US. If you at all believe in cables (I know that many on this board do not), less than $400 investment gives you the opportunity to try. You need a good crimping tool (no need to go to a hydraulic crimper if you are just trying it out), Neutrik connectors and some bulk Mogami.
 

rockitman

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It's easier than it looks.... you just need the right tools, and those are easily available in the US. If you at all believe in cables (I know that many on this board do not), less than $400 investment gives you the opportunity to try. You need a good crimping tool (no need to go to a hydraulic crimper if you are just trying it out), Neutrik connectors and some bulk Mogami.

Bulk Mogami, ect is one thing. Dissecting $10k interconnects is another...I would never be compelled to do it just to see if using 4 interconnects to make one pair of bi-wired interconnects improved the sonic performance.
 

garylkoh

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Bulk Mogami, ect is one thing. Dissecting $10k interconnects is another...I would never be compelled to do it just to see if using 4 interconnects to make one pair of bi-wired interconnects improved the sonic performance.

Yes. You have a point there. I wouldn't dissect someone else's $10k interconnects either!
 

wizard

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By applying a similar but reverse polarity cable against noise, the noise will be cancelled out.

This technology works analogically similar to the principle of noise cancelling earphones.
 

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