Biwired balanced interconnects

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

To get much better performance from interconnect cables is to biwire them, both cables must be balanced.

Two pair of balanced cables are connected together into 1 pair in the same xlr plug at both ends in a special configuration.

This configuration cancels out the cables weaknesses and enhance the best in them.

Before the biwiring, it was like that I have listened with many thick curtains in front of me all the time.
The sound don't get a little better, but much better.

This cable configuration design comes from Germany, and are only known by a exclusive small group of people.

This technology will be patented, so I can't tell you the name of the company and how the configuration is done.

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

This cable configuration design comes from Germany, and are only known by a exclusive small group of people.

This technology will be patented, so I can't tell you the name of the company and how the configuration is done.

LL21 · Aug 24, 2012

wizard said:
A little known secret to get much better performance with cheaper interconnect cables is to biwire them, both cables must be balanced.

Two pair of balanced cables are connected together in the same plug in a special configuration.
This configuration cancels out the cables weaknesses and enhance the best in them.

Before the biwiring, it was like that one have listened with a two ore more thick curtains in front all the time.

The sound don't get a little better, but many levels better.

Effectively, better cables...yes? Can you be more specific so a non-techie like me can understand? You take 2 sets of balanced ICs...and remove the terminations at both ends...and combine the wires and terminate the 2 sets so that they are now 1 set...yes? Can that be done with Transparent Audio cables?

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

lloydelee21 said:
Effectively, better cables...yes? Can you be more specific so a non-techie like me can understand? You take 2 sets of balanced ICs...and remove the terminations at both ends...and combine the wires and terminate the 2 sets so that they are now 1 set...yes? Can that be done with Transparent Audio cables?

Yes two pair of IC's becomes one.
This is a special configuration - its not like combine +, - and Ground into one on both sides.
Haven't tried it with MIT or Transparent, but I think the "mystery box" on them kills the improvement.

LL21 · Aug 24, 2012

wizard said:
Yes two pair of IC's becomes one.
This is a special configuration - its not like combine +, - and Ground into one on both sides.
Haven't tried it with MIT or Transparent, but I think the "mystery box" on them kills the improvement.

Oh well...thanks!

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

I've done this configuration on a very expensive cable - not just a little better sound here and there from the model below - a big sound improvement.

Before I tested a lot of expensive cables all the time, but now I don't test interconnect cables anymore.
I've found my GOD cable.

This cable configuration is by an legendary German audio designer, he is also called a genius.

LL21 · Aug 24, 2012

wizard said:
I've done this configuration on a very expensive cable - not just a little better sound here and there from the model below - a big sound improvement.

Before I tested a lot of expensive cables all the time, but now I don't test interconnect cables anymore.
I've found my GOD cable.

This cable configuration is by an legendary German audio designer, he is also called a genius.

but it does not work on SE cables, right? i am preamp (SE only) to amp (balanced only)...so my ICs are SE but terminated with Xhadow XLR on one side.

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

The cable must be balanced - with plus, minus and ground.
But I think you can use a SE to balanced transformer at the SE output on the preamp.

Phelonious Ponk · Aug 24, 2012

So what's the special configuration?

Tim

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

Phelonious Ponk said:
So what's the special configuration?

Tim

I'm not allowed to tell anyone how to do the cable configuration.
But if one buy products from this German brand they will tell you how to do it.

Contact me on my blog, and I can tell you the name of this German brand.

Kal Rubinson · Aug 24, 2012

wizard said:
I'm not allowed to tell anyone how to do the cable configuration.
But if one buy products from this German brand they will tell you how to do it.

That's silly. Do they make all buyers sign a non-disclosure statement?

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

Kal Rubinson said:
That's silly. Do they make all buyers sign a non-disclosure statement?

Yes.

Speedskater · Aug 24, 2012

Cable companies like Belden, Canare and Mogami have known how to make excellent balanced cables for years! It just takes expensive machines to assure accurate placement of each wire for the length of the cable. It's very similar to the manufacturing requirements for CAT6 cable.

FrantzM · Aug 24, 2012

Kal Rubinson said:
That's silly. Do they make all buyers sign a non-disclosure statement?

wizard said:
Yes.

We've seen it all ...

Phelonious Ponk · Aug 24, 2012

FrantzM said:
We've seen it all ...

Oh no...I don't think so Frantz. Only in reality can there be an end. High end cable merchants are only limited by their imaginations.

Tim

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

I would like to publish it, so everyone can have better sound, but the manufacturer says no-no.

They make some exceptional electronics, same level as FM Acoustics and some of them even better.
They also design for other manufacturers.

Kal Rubinson · Aug 24, 2012

wizard said:
I would like to publish it, so everyone can have better sound, but the manufacturer says no-no.

I am not really interested in it but I would be curiously amused to find out.

docvale · Aug 24, 2012

I don't know if I understood correctly the principle of this technology, but I remember I've already seen brands whose interconnects have up to three cables (in the case of balanced interconnects) with a single set of XLR plugs.
If this is how this stuff is supposed to work, I don't get the breakthrough.

wizard · Aug 24, 2012

docvale said:
I don't know if I understood correctly the principle of this technology, but I remember I've already seen brands whose interconnects have up to three cables (in the case of balanced interconnects) with a single set of XLR plugs.
If this is how this stuff is supposed to work, I don't get the breakthrough.

Which cable brand?
It may be like this - three cables - one for plus, one for minus and for ground.

The special configuration requires six cables to work - two minus, two plus and two ground wires.

docvale · Aug 24, 2012

wizard said:
Which cable brand?
It may be like this - three cables - one for plus, one for minus and for ground.

The special configuration requires six cables to work - two minus, two plus and two ground wires.

Eh, too tough question

I don't remember, I'm not that into cables... but it was probably more that 4 years ago when I saw online those cables...

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