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    Quote Originally Posted by jfrech View Post
    MQA update from dCS Says May now for Vivaldi DAC... Vivaldi One just released...

    https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/about/news/
    Any one else a bit puzzled that Vivaldi One came before the Dac and Upsampler? I still maintain the network card in the Upsampler is an issue that dCS is having trouble dealing with.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Any one else a bit puzzled that Vivaldi One came before the Dac and Upsampler? I still maintain the network card in the Upsampler is an issue that dCS is having trouble dealing with.....
    The beta MQA Vivaldi release was playing at Axpona, and I was told they are in the final SW release phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Any one else a bit puzzled that Vivaldi One came before the Dac and Upsampler? I still maintain the network card in the Upsampler is an issue that dCS is having trouble dealing with.....
    My understanding is that the reason for that is the Vivaldi One is a simpler configuration. The Vivaldi stack, with 4 separate pieces (where each piece may or may not be present), involves many different user situations so the coding is very complex (as is QA).
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    Good points here

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadFloyd View Post
    My understanding is that the reason for that is the Vivaldi One is a simpler configuration. The Vivaldi stack, with 4 separate pieces (where each piece may or may not be present), involves many different user situations so the coding is very complex (as is QA).
    This ^ - although I only think it only involves the Upsampler and DAC boxes. The challenge is that MQA license restrictions do not allow the upsampler to send out a fully decoded digital signal that is at high resolution. in the one box units this is not an issue. For the Vivaldi, the upsampler should do the first unfold and send to the DAC (I have a beta version that is doing this now) and then the DAC has to recognize the signal and perform the second unfold and implement the MQA filter. I believe that is the complication of the two box stack over the single box solutions like the One and the Rossini. Hopefully it will be out soon.

    While I wait for the Vivaldi, I am using the Rossini to play Masters files and it works great.
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    Could anyone tell me what the difference is between the Vivaldi 1 and the current version of the DAC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dctom View Post
    Could anyone tell me what the difference is between the Vivaldi 1 and the current version of the DAC?
    As far as I know it is only software. The new MAP version operates the ring DAC at 6MHz - it is probably why it can not work on the Scarlatti. The upgrade was free of cost.

    The only unit that had an hardware upgrade was the Vivaldi upsampler.
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    Yes but how do the Vivaldi DAC + Upsampler compare sonically to Vivaldi One, especially via ethernet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dctom View Post
    Could anyone tell me what the difference is between the Vivaldi 1 and the current version of the DAC?
    Is your question how the Vivaldi 1 (one box player) vs the Vivaldi Dac or the Vivaldi Dac version 1 vs dac version 2?

    If one box player, the DAC sections are similar, it's the transport, upsampler and not quite as good as the 4 box separates. It's close and you have no cables to fool with along with less power cords...

    if the dac v1 vs v2 Microstrip hit it right...I will add quite a bit of difference on sound quality. It's like a new dac...
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