Slow Car Fast or Fast Car Slow

[puroagave]

I drove the Targa Florio a few years ago (I'm not even sure if it is running these days, sort of typical Italian administrative complexities and warring factions) in a TOTAL piece of **** 50's Triumph. The car had a classically bad electrical system and broke down constantly. (At the time, I think I had the Diablo 6.0 in the garage at home). The car was completely squirrely on the web cobblestones climbing Mt.Pelligrino, and had no real speed. The lighting was like candles at night. But, i was about five inches off the ground, with the door cut-outs i could palm the pavement as i drove- and the route was all B- and C roads, through the mountains. With the largish steering wheel, a horrible shifter and no real power, you pretty much drove it flat out to keep up. It was a ball. I ran a 20's British car that I had restored for a while, and right hand drive, cable brakes and no real grip using huge wire wheels made it a challenge to drive at 50 mph. Maybe I'm just getting old. I'd still like to own a period Bentley red label 3 with a 4.5 litre motor. Those cars were the hot-rods of their day and are still run competitively, in their class, with amazing results.

the real targa died after the '73 race, those were the days "when racing was dangerous and sex was safe" but the amateur event lives on and i believe IRC is still held there.

[whart]

the real targa died after the '73 race, those were the days "when racing was dangerous and sex was safe" but the amateur event lives on and i believe IRC is still held there.

Agreed. This was not a wheel to wheel race. It was more like a suntan on wheels.

[tdh888]

I like sports cars, not much on trucks. I'd buy a restored 246 Dino and never look back.

Same here I like sports cars also our family has a G wagen. I would also cherish owning a 246 gt Dino someday ( I even gave my son this nickname because I love the 246's) but unfortunately in this country of ours w/ my meager income I can only aspire to own a 328 GTB if they're prices dont appreciate that much in the future. In my humble opinion the cars of today have a lot of HP but they're big & heavy.

[puroagave]

Same here I like sports cars also our family has a G wagen. I would also cherish owning a 246 gt Dino someday ( I even gave my son this nickname because I love the 246's) but unfortunately in this country of ours w/ my meager income I can only aspire to own a 328 GTB if they're prices dont appreciate that much in the future. In my humble opinion the cars of today have a lot of HP but they're big & heavy.

there was a time when dinos were worth less that 308s. it was like ferraris red headed step child with a v6 built by lancia and devoid enzo's surname anywhere on the car except his son's. lambo miuras were like that in the early eighties you could still find them for ~20k back then. jay leno got one of his two miuras for free! his mechanic was tired of working on it.

[whart]

there was a time when dinos were worth less that 308s. .

Yep, the ultimate underacheiver had to be the 2.4 FIAT Dino. Nobody took them seriously at the time- sort of the orphan of the step child, and you were paying Ferrari prices to repair a FIAT. But, man are those things gorgeous. A friend bought one a few years ago that he had restored, and despite all the more exotic stuff in his garage, that little Dino sings to me. The body work is voluptuous and its sound is just so right. I think I'd still rather have a 246, which, to my eye, is one of the most beautiful cars ever made.
Rob- I was seeing miuras cheap even into the late 90's. (Not factory split sump S/V's but the others- that car's another one that had a history of catching fire. Sort of an Italian tradition). There's a lawyer in New Orleans, Houtling, if memory serves, who had the Shah of Iran's Miura. He bought it before S/V prices went through the roof- it's a beautiful blue- i'm digging this out of old memory banks. Gorgeous car. The only other Lambo I considered was a periscope Countach. I almost bought one from Al Burtoni up near San Jose, but I simply couldn't fit into it. What a gorgeous car. The later ones do nothing for me- the flares and wings spoil the line of the car, which is a simple arc. They are tiny in the flesh. And that motor! It wasn't terribly expensive either- call it 95k dollars in around 1998 or so? Those went well above 4 or 500 k in the mid 2000's but I sorta lost track of Lambo after that. The oldest ones are the coolest, for sure.

PS, i found the old Shah car, it looks like the New Orleans' guy put it up for sale through Simon Kidston, who had some nice pics on his website.
http://www.kidston.com/kidston-cars/...-Miura-P400SV#

[DEV]

OK guys, this is just plain childish with "mine is bigger than yours"

Now let's stay on topic. If you want to show pix of your muscle cars, start a new thread. There are many members here with cars that make the above photos seem ordinary

DEV, you need to take a humility pill IMHO


There are plenty of guys here who have cars that will destroy everything you have shown above. Difference is they know humbleness and don't need to flaunt it to gain notoriety as you seem to.

Enough said. If you want to discuss it, start another thread.

Well that was a uncalled reply don't you think Steve? Maybe read first before you throw arround accusations, it was just a friendly back and forth and that's it but your reply is totally uncalled for. On a power trip are we?

[tdh888]

If I can recall I saw Nicholas Cage's Miura in a TV programm years ago (cant recall if it was Top Gear, or was it Fifth Gear) ,they said it was the ex Shah of Iran car. Was this the Jota model. I read somewhere that he is also selling this car. Fiat Dino is also nice car specially the Spider version.

[whart]

If I can recall I saw Nicholas Cage's Miura in a TV programm years ago (cant recall if it was Top Gear, or was it Fifth Gear) ,they said it was the ex Shah of Iran car. Was this the Jota model. I read somewhere that he is also selling this car. Fiat Dino is also nice car specially the Spider version.

The one the guy in N.O. had was not the Jota. I think you are right that N. Cage got the Jota, he has had alot of crazy cars including big time Bugatti collectibles. The Shah had a few cars. No comment on the politics, though.

[Steve Williams]

Well that was a uncalled reply don't you think Steve? Maybe read first before you throw arround accusations, it was just a friendly back and forth and that's it but your reply is totally uncalled for. On a power trip are we?

Hi David

No power trip. Rather trying to keep
The thread on topic and IIRC it was you who quickly derailed it so a new thread was created by Bill. I trust you are OK with that

[tdh888]

Maybe we have guys here whose lurking at WBF whose also into collector cars specially sports and exotic cars of the past .I hope they make themselves active in this forum so we can discuss this passion of ours aside from audio.