Really Sad Epitaph to Great Career

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It's sad, in some parts of the US, Football comes before God and Country.
 

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It's sad, in some parts of the US, Football comes before God and Country.

Especially when football pays for 75% of the athletic budget. Plus who do you think pays for those $4 million dollar contracts for college FB coaches. It sure isn't the school!
 

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The University of Washington football team subsidizes the WHOLE athletic program!
 

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---I've watched the news yesterday and today regarding this very very sad hiding of the most terrible crime (rape of children) by the top officials from Penn State, and it was totally wrong what these important men did (in this case did not)!

It is more tragic than all the money and prestige football has in America.

To condemn and affect children for the rest of their life in the name of reputation is the most heinous crime.
And the fact that this happened in our own backyard, America, is even more revolting.

This is one thing to lie and commit fraud (banks in America),
but even worst to 'screw' our children, and to not protect them!

I dunno, sometimes this planet just doesn't make any sense at all.

People (most majority) prefer to hide and ignore these (and all type) crimes,
because it is easier like that to go on.
But the fact is this: by ignoring and doing nothing to stop the bad deeds (by not telling) is being guilty as well.
Because you are letting the crimes to continue, the world to degenerate.
{Prestige, reputation, money revenues; are not values here, childrens of our societies are.}

It is appalling that men of high status cannot take responsabilities of the utmost important values in our life; protection and healthy environment for our children, who are the next generations of Earth protectors in the name of Peace, Happiness, Justice, and Liberty.

Man has to relearn the right life priorities, and not just the uneducated, but also the most highly educated as well!
...No leaders, no orders, no values, no nothing but destruction of mankind and his planet.

Maybe you think that these are big words, but they aren't, they are reflecting the truth, the pure reality.

Every day I die a little more, and with me so are many more.
And for what? ...In the name of corruption, pollution, power, money, prestige, fraud, lies, denials, and just the plain wrong reasons.

My heart is deeply hurt by some of the people I thought were my brothers and sisters.
If this happened in Penn State at the football college, and for so many years,
where else in America and all over the world is it happening too?

The chain reaction that it creates is more than the imagination can handle.
If we don't stop it, we are cowards. ...Sandusky's wife; what was she thinking?
...In my book she should be jailed too because she is as guilty as her husband.
...And same for all those officials who did not tell the authorities. I'm sure the FBI agrees.

P.S. Sorry for the typos.
 
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Feel sad about the victims, not the apparent hypocrite.
 

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---...And the victims (children) will eventually become the sexual aggressors themselves! ...Not all of them, but a good chance from the ones who were ignored and not properly taken care of.

That is only one small (big) aspect of that chain reaction I was talkin' 'bout in my above post.
 

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I just watched the movie "Doubt." Being accused falsely of molesting of a child is devastating. The fact that this guy looked people in the eye and denied it is devastating to those whose only defense is there word.
 

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I just watched the movie "Doubt." Being accused falsely of molesting of a child is devastating. The fact that this guy looked people in the eye and denied it is devastating to those whose only defense is there word.

-----Powerful film, and very well acted by Meryl Streep, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Amy Adams, and Viola Davis. ...Got the Blu-ray. ...Music by Howard Shore.
 

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I think much more needs to happen to Penn State to make sure every other school REALLY understands how unacceptable this was. Remove the statue of Joe "the scum bag" Paterno from the campus; remove the entire Board; prosecute to the full extent of the law ANYONE who had ANY (even the slightest knowledge) of what was going on. And if SMU received the "death penalty" for something massively less egregious than what happened at Penn State, then the next step after "the death penalty" should be applied to Penn State. And then, so as not to penalize the football players who chose Penn State, the school should pay the transfer and tuition to any other of the schools they choose to attend.

And if there is a shred of decency left anyplace in the Penn State organization, they should pro-actively anti-up huge financial resources to every victim of this tragedy. They are going to get their tails handed to them in the multiple law suits they are going to face so they may as well get ahead of the curve.

What a horrible, horrible, horrible situation that was allowed to continue for so long.
 

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I'm not disagreeing audioguy. I'm just reminding everyone Peen State has agreed to "pay." Almost every jurisdiction has "mandatory reporting laws for children. At least by officials.
 

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Oh yeah... they'll be "paying" for many years!

Penn State could pay $100 million in civil damages to Sandusky's victims and lose public funding

........Penn State supporters likely felt the university hit rock bottom Thursday with the release of the Freeh Report, with its damning litany of evidence that school leaders ignored and concealed horrific crimes against children.

But the cost to Penn State could be more severe than anyone imagined. The university could eventually fork out more than $100 million to victims of Jerry Sandusky's child molestation, experts say.

Although the Freeh Report is not a legal document, its findings following the conviction of Sandusky, a former Nittany Lions defensive coordinator, on 45 counts of child molestation would make any civil trial difficult for the school to win. Penn State already has encouraged victims to come forward and settle, but now the victims will be encouraged (and many will say justified) to come forward asking for millions of dollars.

"Penn State could get clobbered," said Norm Pattis, a leading trial lawyer based in Connecticut who specializes in civil suits. "The plaintiff's theory is not just that people were injured but that lives were ruined. It's not uncommon to see behavioral problems. I think the damage claims could be very significant."
Graham Spanier's decisions might cost Penn State millions. (AP)

How significant?

"Five million apiece is a conservative estimate," Pattis said. "If I had one of these plaintiffs, I'd hold out for a $10 million settlement and it would take a lot of work to get me to do less."

Some experts feel that number is excessive, that six-figure settlements are more likely. "Somebody said $10 million per victim," said legal expert Michael McCann, director of the Sports Law Institute and professor of law at Vermont Law School and a contributor for Sports Illustrated. "No, I don't see where that number is from. When somebody dies, it's not that high."

But McCann acknowledges the real possibility that new victims could come forward, emboldened by the courage shown by the victims who testified against Sandusky. Fewer than a dozen took the stand, but one study found that men who molest boys average 150 victims. "Let's face it," McCann said. "There must be other victims. That's why Penn State should get closure."

Chicago-based attorney Andrew Stoltmann believes the cost to Penn State could soar past $100 million in settlements – a number Pattis agrees with. And that's the preferred path for the university because a trial not only likely would lead to more ugly evidence against Joe Paterno and the school, but could outrage a jury enough to award a victim tens of millions of dollars in damages (though a legal procedure called remittitur allows a judge to reduce a jury award deemed excessive).

University insurance could cover a large award, but the school's inaction over the course of the past 14 years in stopping Sandusky's behavior may threaten the coverage. "If you found high-level officials knew what was going on," Drexel law professor Richard Frankel said, "it could give rise to punitive damages. Then the university is on the hook for itself."

Asked by Yahoo! Sports columnist Dan Wetzel on Thursday if civil claims could run into the hundreds of millions, Victim 1’s attorney, Michael Boni, said, "I don't think that's out of the question."

Nor is further investigation out of the question. In fact, experts say, it's likely. The Freeh Report showed evidence of a clear violation of the Clery Act, which mandates a school report crimes on campus to the federal government. That could cost Penn State tens of thousands of dollars in fines. And then there's the possibility of NCAA violations, specifically articles 2.4 and 10.1 of the NCAA constitution, which insist on proper ethical behavior on the part of coaches and school officials: "These values should be manifest not only in athletics participation, but also in the broad spectrum of activities affecting the athletics program."

The NCAA sent a letter to Penn State asking for answers to four key questions related to the Sandusky scandal, and sports law expert Alan Milstein thinks it's a foregone conclusion the NCAA will get involved. "If Penn State is smart," he said, "they're going to self-punish and eliminate the program for one year to avoid the death penalty."

Others believe that because this is a criminal issue and not a sports concern, the NCAA will avoid interfering. Milstein vehemently disagrees. "This is all about sports," he said. "All about protecting your sports empire."

He predicts Penn State will "shut down" its football program temporarily and allow athletes to transfer without penalty. If that happens, the school obviously would suffer a serious financial hit.

Would all this irreparably damage the university? Probably not, as Penn State's endowment is $1.8 billion. But unfortunately for the school, there's another frightening scenario to think about, and it involves Title IX.

Most of us think of Title IX as federal legislation that ensures gender equality, and that's true. But in a well-argued article for Justia.com last year, Hofstra professor Joanna Grossman and Pittsburgh professor Deborah Brake pointed out "Title IX's ban on sex discrimination clearly encompasses sexual harassment, whether it is opposite-sex or same-sex, and sexual assault and rape each constitute a severe form of sexual harassment, as well as being criminal acts."

The authors cited a 1992 Supreme Court case, Franklin v. Gwinnett County Public Schools, which allows a sexual harassment victim to sue for damages based on Title IX. (It's difficult to argue the Sandusky victims were not harassed.)

Grossman and Brake then tackled the issue of whether Sandusky victims can sue under Title IX since they are not affiliated with the university. But they noted the use of the word "person" in Title IX language: "No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be … subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance …"

Since some of Sandusky's crimes occurred on university property, and were enabled by his affiliation with the school – bowl trips for Second Mile children – Grossman and Brake argued that "Title IX covers all programs of a school, even when such programs take place away from school facilities, including on a bus, field trip, or at another location."

In an interview with Yahoo! Sports, Grossman said, "There is going to be some pressure on the Office of Civil Rights to investigate [a possible Title IX investigation]. The Freeh report really calls upon them to look into it because of what it says about the institutional culture."
Joe Paterno, right, and other Penn State officials were part of the problem. (AP)
Grossman and Brake concluded that Penn State is liable, citing Gebser v. Lago Vista Independent School District, another Supreme Court case in which it was ruled "a school is only liable for damages for harassment (or assault) by a teacher if an official with authority to address the harassment has actual notice of the harassment and responded with deliberate indifference."

The Freeh Report went a long way to establish "deliberate indifference" by several Penn State officials with the authority to address the harassment. Paterno, then-athletic director Tim Curley, then-university president Graham Spanier and then-vice president Gary Schultz were found to have "repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse."

Title IX has not been applied to a situation quite like this because there hasn't been a situation quite like this. But now there is, and the U.S. Department of Education already is investigating. Penn State, as with all public universities, relies on government money. And a violation of Title IX could have implications beyond civil suit payouts.

"They could lose federal funding," said one attorney in the counsel's office of a major university, who requested anonymity. "It will bury the institution. There will be no university without financial aid."

Is Penn State in jeopardy of surviving as an institution? Most experts say no. But there is a price to pay for a total failure of leadership at one of the nation's top universities. And that price will be enormous.
 
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When this story first broke the majority adamantly supported Paterno. Now that the facts are out showing that he was complicit in the Sandusky coverup, that big ole bronze statue should be pulled down ala Saddam. So much for Penn State's football program or any PS athletic program for that matter.
 

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There is still a dead prosecutor to account for.
 

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Paterno defends Penn State football in recently released letter

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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno defended his program's integrity in a 7-month-old letter released Wednesday, a day ahead of a report that could forever mar his legacy.

In the letter, written shortly before his death and confirmed as legitimate by his family, Paterno rejected the notion that his former assistant Jerry Sandusky's sexual abuse of boys amounted to a "football scandal" or tarnished the accomplishments of his players or Penn State's reputation as a whole.


A team led by former federal judge and FBI ex-director Louis Freeh interviewed hundreds of people to learn how the university responded to warning signs that its once-revered former assistant football coach -- a man who helped Paterno win two national titles for a university that touted "success with honor" -- was a serial child molester.

Sandusky was convicted on 45 criminal counts last month at a trial that included gut-wrenching testimony from eight young men who said he abused them as boys. By contrast, the Freeh report, to be released online at 9 a.m. Thursday, will focus on Penn State and what it did -- or didn't do -- to protect children.

Eight months after Sandusky's arrest, it remains unclear how top university officials handled reports dating back at least 14 years that Sandusky was behaving inappropriately with boys he met through his charity, taking them on campus and forcing them into sex acts.

Among those who will be scouring the Freeh report are school officials trying to repair Penn State's shattered reputation and ex-players and alumni who remain outraged over Paterno's ouster in the wake of Sandusky's arrest. The Hall of Fame coach died from lung cancer in January, two months after school trustees fired him for what they called a failure of leadership.

Paterno offered a passionate defense of the university and its football program in the letter, which surfaced for the first time Wednesday.

The Paterno family said the letter was given in draft form to a few former players around December. One of the ex-players circulated it to other former players on Wednesday, and it was posted on the website FightonState.com, which covers the team.

"Over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a `football factory' and we are going to `start' focusing on integrity in athletics," Paterno wrote. "These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great."

Paterno also wrote, "This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one."

Among those receiving Paterno's 712-word missive Wednesday was former linebacker Brandon Short, now an investment banker in Dubai. He told the Associated Press that he will be looking to the Freeh report to find "some clarity, hoping that it is a fair assessment of what happened, and we would love to see answers."

He added, "Let's see the report and save all judgment and innuendo until after we've read it."

Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship, an alumni watchdog group that has been highly critical of the school's board of trustees, issued a 95-point checklist of issues it said it expects to be covered in Freeh's report "in order for it to be considered a credible, valid summary of the case."

Lawyers for the young men who testified against Sandusky, and others planning lawsuits, will be reading the findings for what it might mean regarding civil litigation.

Joel Feller, part of a legal team that represents several victims in the case, including three who testified against Sandusky, said Wednesday he will look for clues about "who knew what and when."

"I think the Freeh report will be a good starting point to allow the plaintiffs' lawyers to determine who the key people are and what information they had," he said. "An important part of that is to figure out when they knew it, and more importantly why appropriate steps were not taken to stop this ongoing conduct of Sandusky."

The Freeh report is expected to delve deeply into the handling of a 2001 report from Mike McQueary, a graduate assistant who told Paterno he had seen Sandusky with a young boy in the football team shower. Paterno, in turn, alerted athletic director Tim Curley, who investigated the report along with Gary Schultz, a university vice president who oversaw the campus police department. Curley and Schultz ultimately decided not to alert law enforcement or child welfare authorities.

Curley, who's on leave, and the now-retired Schultz are awaiting trial on charges they lied to a grand jury investigating Sandusky and failed to report the McQueary complaint to civil authorities as required.

After a 50-minute meeting in Harrisburg with the judge overseeing their case, Schultz's lawyer said Wednesday he won't be among those who call up the Freeh report the minute it is posted.

"I don't expect I'll be reading it for a while," said Pittsburgh attorney Tom Farrell. "I've got other things to do."

The NCAA, meanwhile, said Wednesday that it will decide on whether to take action at the "appropriate time." The governing body said it has already been collecting information from Freeh's probe, and that Penn State will have to formally respond to questions from NCAA President Mark Emmert after Freeh reveals his findings.

The NCAA is reviewing how Penn State exerted "institutional control" in relation to the Sandusky matter, and whether university officials complied with policies that pertain to honesty and ethical conduct. The NCAA could open a more formal investigation that may expose Penn State to sanctions.
 

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