Absolute Sound is Rubbish

[Phelonious Ponk]

Tim,

Although I hate posting in a thread unhappily carrying the inelegant and misapplied word rubbish , I have to comment your wretched sentence. Gathering Fremer , L. Ron Hubbard, Toole and Edison can only be explained by audiophile phobia, as no parallel can exist. Edison was a great inventor and a business man, but not a scientist - some of his poor decisions were due to his limited knowledge of science. F. Toole is really an audio scientist - that as far as I know you do not appreciate - Fremer is an audio reviewer and although I have never deeply studied the life of Ron Hubbard, he is often associated with pseudo-religion, legal cases and fraud.

I find it a very inappropriate mix. You are free to dislike also Fremer - I also do not agree with many of his views but respect them and have learned a lot reading from his large experience. To conclude, IMHO, you really do not need Edison or Toole to embellish your anti-audiophile opinions.

You're taking all of this way too seriously, micro.

Tim

[JackD201]

Lexicon.

Wasn't Goldmund the first to get busted in the DVD days?

[JackD201]

Imagine if there hadn't been a backlash to mass market solid state in the early days or "Perfect Sound Forever" for that matter. Where would solid state and digital be today?

Unfortunately for some people it appears the world stopped at some arbitrary point in time and believe that at this point in time nobody but nobody can tell the difference anymore.

[Kal Rubinson]

Wasn't Goldmund the first to get busted in the DVD days?

Ah, yes. A Swiss company a bit out of my orbit.

[NorthStar]

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I remember the Oppo story as well. English company...don't recall the name. That made a bit more of a stink, probably because they didn't design anything at all, they just dropped an Oppo in a new box and marked it up a few grand.

Tim

---- The Lexicon BD-30 Universal Blu-ray Player: $3,500 MSRP (USD).
Oppo BDP-83 Universal Blu-ray Player: $499 MSRP (USD). ...What's inside the Lex BD-30.

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* You know Tim; I'm reading all your posts and I follow your lines of thought.
And I agree with them.

[John72953]

---- The Lexicon BD-30 Universal Blu-ray Player: $3,500 MSRP (USD).
Oppo BDP-83 Universal Blu-ray Player: $499 MSRP (USD). ...What's inside the Lex BD-30.

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* You know tim; I'm reading all your posts and I follow your lines of thought.
And I agree with them.

Wasn't it the BDP-95?

[NorthStar]

---Nope, the BDP-83.--- Here

[John72953]

---Nope, the BDP-83.--- Here

Thought for sure it was the 95....thanks!

[NorthStar]

---No sweat!

[Phelonious Ponk]

Imagine if there hadn't been a backlash to mass market solid state in the early days or "Perfect Sound Forever" for that matter. Where would solid state and digital be today?

Unfortunately for some people it appears the world stopped at some arbitrary point in time and believe that at this point in time nobody but nobody can tell the difference anymore.

What backlash? SS was introduced commercially in the mid 60s. By the early 70s it was driving the largest expansion of the hifi market ever. Digital was introduced as a commercial product in the mid 1980s? It became the dominant media within a decade. "perfect sound forever" was a short-lived marketing slogan forgotten by all but the very small niche market that keeps it around to mock that which they"backlashed" against back in the day, unnoticed by anyone but their own.

What woud have happened differently without that backlash? Nothing of any significance, I suspect.

Tim