Reference 75

[MylesBAstor]

My issue with ARC is not the bass---but the midrange. The VT100mkIII sounded like an SS amp. It was flat, whitish sound, although perhaps that is partly because of the 6550s.

Will see if the newer Refs are more organic.

Never thought that was the sound of the SED 6550s?

[microstrip]

I know that Ken Kessler is not the preferred reviewer of all our members, but any one sending me by PM his mail address stating " I want the very subjective review of the D70 by Ken Kessler and I am mature enough to read it" will get a scan of the 1984 review.

[DaveyF]

Never thought that was the sound of the SED 6550s?

Agree with you Myles, in my system SED 6550's are not flat or whitish. OTOH, the VT100Mk3 did sound a little "congested" compared to the D70Mk2 in my system. As Keith pointed out, the later amp was less organic in the mids as well.

[jap]

DaveyF,

Have you ever listened to a VSi60, VS115, REF 110 or REF 150?

If you're going to the showthis weekend, be sure and check out the REF 75 on display in room 331-333 with Sony.

[DaveyF]

jap, I have listened to the Vsi60, VS110 and the Ref110. The Ref 110 is a very nice amp, the VSi60 and the VS110 were IMO not as resolving in the midrange as my D70Mk2. BTW,today I re-read the article that Micro posted above by KK. I agree with everything that KK said and this 28 years later
IF you get a chance to read this article, it is still on point IMHO.
I will be at the show tomorrow, hopefully I will get to hear the Ref75, although from what i have heard it will be only on static display We shall see.

[jap]

jap, I have listened to the Vsi60, VS110 and the Ref110. The Ref 110 is a very nice amp, the VSi60 and the VS110 were IMO not as resolving in the midrange as my D70Mk2. BTW,today I re-read the article that Micro posted above by KK. I agree with everything that KK said and this 28 years later
IF you get a chance to read this article, it is still on point IMHO.
I will be at the show tomorrow, hopefully I will get to hear the Ref75, although from what i have heard it will be only on static display We shall see.

I heard the VSi60 on Wilson Sophia 2s, a few years ago and thought it was a wonderful amp for the money. Stereophile also thought it was a great amp and gave it the 2010 amp of the year award.

More recently, I heard the REF 150 and 610Ts(6550Cs) on Sophia 3s and was shocked that REF 150 was so much better than those hugh space heaters.

Maybe you should bring your D70Mk2 to the show tomorrow and challenge the REF 75 to a throw down.;-)

[DaveyF]

I heard the VSi60 on Wilson Sophia 2s, a few years ago and thought it was a wonderful amp for the money. Stereophile also thought it was a great amp and gave it the 2010 amp of the year award.

More recently, I heard the REF 150 and 610Ts(6550Cs) on Sophia 3s and was shocked that REF 150 was so much better than those hugh space heaters.

Maybe you should bring your D70Mk2 to the show tomorrow and challenge the REF 75 to a throw down.;-)

That's a very good idea, jap. Can you imagine the 'push back' if GOD forbid the D70 won the matchup, LOL.

[KeithR]

Agree with you Myles, in my system SED 6550's are not flat or whitish. OTOH, the VT100Mk3 did sound a little "congested" compared to the D70Mk2 in my system. As Keith pointed out, the later amp was less organic in the mids as well.

Maybe that is what it was. I was just guessing as to the cause. Maybe it was just Svetlana 6550s really suck, I don't know. Isn't that what ARC uses stock back then?

btw, the Ref 75 will be shown on Wilsons at THE Show in Sunny's room. I reached out to Sunil yesterday. Good guy.