Thats always been my findings too. i use all tubes right now, but have preferred SS preamp and tube amps when mixing the two.
For tube/ss lovers: Where do you feel tubes should be
- Thread starter MarinJim
- Start date
Thats always been my findings too. i use all tubes right now, but have preferred SS preamp and tube amps when mixing the two.
What (as far a impedance match) do you guys think about my Burmester 911 MK3 and Concert Fidelity CF-080 LX?
CF -080 LX:
Input Impedance: 100kohms
Outputs: 1-Line Level Output (RCA)
Gain: Selectable between 6dB and 12dB
Tube Complement: 12AU7 (2) for gain (tube-swapping possible), 6CA4 (1) for rectification
Burmester 911 MK3:
23K unbalanced
2K balanced
CF -080 LX:
Input Impedance: 100kohms
Outputs: 1-Line Level Output (RCA)
Gain: Selectable between 6dB and 12dB
Tube Complement: 12AU7 (2) for gain (tube-swapping possible), 6CA4 (1) for rectification
Burmester 911 MK3:
23K unbalanced
2K balanced
You can probably get away with that but don't have the equation at my fingertips. You should watch out when the tube preamps output impedance is around 500 K or greater (like my old ART).
Last edited:
Although in looking at it again, I don't know what the story is if using balanced. Also, I assume when you said input impedance on the CF, you meant output impedance?
The ratio is 10:1 that you want at minimum.
As a former pass amp owner, i can safely say there arent many tube preamps with low output impedance.
As a former pass amp owner, i can safely say there arent many tube preamps with low output impedance.
I have posted it in another thread, but when using tube preamplfiers the situation is more complicated then just 10:1. The tube preamplifiers usually have a capacitor output that will cut bass frequencies when used with low impedance amplifiers and most tube stages will have much higher distortion in loads bellow 50 kohms. There are exceptions to this - the Atma-sphere preamplfiers are prepared to drive a 600 ohm load.
Although there are no rules, from my experience with a limited number of preamplifiers I got the impression that tube preamplifier prefer a load around 100 kohms.
And yes, I prefer tubes - lots of them if possible!
the Joule Electra (tube) has an output impedance of just 400 ohms and could easily drive the aleph's low input impedance of 23k without roll off of the high freq. it also has two gain settings to optimize for for best s/n with the widest range of amps, speakers, etc.
Similar threads
Members online
- fbhifi
- lunego
- Legolas
- JeremyMTB
- dctom
- Rensselaer
- cef04e
- Toymanmark
- FFzz
- Another Johnson
- Bonesy Jonesy
- earl3090
- bonzo75
- Geoffkait
- SOS
- crosswind
- Wjhen
- kasin
- Sablon Audio
- matthias
- abeidrov
- dbeau
- nkjtbushwood
- Emperyan
- JM1221
- Argonaut
- Golum
- Azjya
- tsaett
- jriggy
- Król_Artur
- fleetowner123
- MusicFellow
- dminches
- Audiocrack
- John T
- Koegz
- DLS
- hopkins
- Carcrazy
- trekpilot
- lok
- MarcelNL
- DW101
- andromedaaudio
- alex3
- Mark212121
- KeithR
- itay123
- Armsan
 | Steve Williams Site Founder | Site Owner | Administrator |  | Ron Resnick Site Co-Owner | Administrator |  | Julian (The Fixer) Website Build | Marketing Managersing |