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    What went wrong? - Awful Avalon coverage

    http://www.soundstageglobal.com/inde...2011&Itemid=87

    These lines from the respectable Soundstage! mag called to my attention, I have heard the Transcendent and, since not my fave Avalon model, it follows the company signature sound (coherent, integrated and musical).
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    Given show conditions, I don't expect much out of any speaker!
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    Frankly, I don’t know if this is a hatchet job or if it’s deserved. I will let Avalon owners chime in.

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    CES 2011??? Anyhow, I've heard other unacceptable Avalons in the same price range, in the past; the Opus comes to mind. I wish I had tomatoes and eggs with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    Given show conditions, I don't expect much out of any speaker!
    You did an awfully good job with those Ushers at RAMF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    You did an awfully good job with those Ushers at RAMF!
    Thank-you.... it's better to be lucky than good! It's all in the source baby!!
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    Fernando, give them a break. From the pictures, it looks like they demo'ed in one of the conference rooms on the show floor. Those rooms are notorious for bad sound. They are perfectly square!! There's only so much they can do to set up the speakers. If I turned up to a show and had a perfectly square room, I might have turned around and headed to the nearest bar...... and I don't drink.
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    Somebody pour Neil a stiff one. In another post I mentioned a terribly bad experience with German Physik, Continuum and Vitus, yes, in one of the conference rooms as well. Fourth floor? I can't quite remember. Terribly thin and disjointed sound like the ceilings which seemed higher than the rooms were wide or long were sucking up all the midbass and bass. Manufacturers would do well to steer clear of these rooms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    Given show conditions, I don't expect much out of any speaker!
    Then you should have heard the Magico Q7s today. Some speaker...at 165K
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    I can appreciate when a reviewer provides an honest assessment of a product. Reading how Stereophile deems every system as "best" becomes tiring. If people don't find a loudspeaker to be to their taste, then so be it. I have no personal need for other people to like Avalons.

    However, this review has a number of statements which undermines it's integrity and suggests some type of agenda. This reviewer comments about poor build quality, how the speaker looks too similar to other Avalon models, and that he feels the tweeter is not placed in the proper position. He even admits that other Avalons he has heard only sound "decent enough". To say that Avalon has poor build quality is laughable, but I'm sure the company is not laughing.

    FWIW, someone's ears I trust said the Transcendent was one of the best speakers at RMAF 2010, and the room sounded better than the Kaiser room. Other reviews speak nothing about the "dismal" performance, if anything is to be trusted from any review. Interestingly, Alan Sircom, in his review, mentioned that the CES 2011 room was so packed with acoustic treatment, that the sound seemed to actually suffer.

    I believe the reviewer is entitled to their opinion, but as we all know, it should be tempered with the caveat of show conditions and he should hold-back the personal attacks. In the end, this review contributes nothing of value and underscores the potential influence these people can exert on a company trying to create new products to fill varying niches. I also see this reviewer totally roasted the Venture speaker based upon show conditions as well.
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