What kind of listener would you classify yourself as?

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Yes, OP is pointing out the negative as he sees it in some classifications but that is his prerogative. If you like to participate but want to suggest a different take, I think that will be welcome too.

I thought all of the classifications were negative without any bite of humor which would have been appreciated. I just don’t want to be painted into a narrow unfunny box or boxes. If everyone else thinks this is a great thread, that’s fine with me. If I get to draw my own box, I’m just someone who loves music and likes to hear it back with the highest fidelity I can afford.
 

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Posting material on the internet always lacks the "clarity" of face-to-face communication. It's not always easy to read the intent and mood of a written post. Whenever possible, I try to give the benefit of the doubt to the poster, wanting to believe that they just didn't get their point across as eloquently as they wished. Almost always, the next few posts clear up any miscommunications.

I learn something from posts like the OP. Sometimes the post contains knowledge and sometimes it just makes me think. I don't have to agree with everything in the post to get value from reading it.

Bill
 

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I am still trying to figure out why I can get so much enjoyment from a 5 or 6 inch single speaker mono table radio out in the garage....
Tom

Because it's not trying to be something it isn't and therefore your excpectations aren't the same as they would be for a high-end system and you enjoy it for what it is. And having said that, old tube mono table radios were single-ended and had no real bottom end or much extension on top, but they still had a damn good midrange that got most of the music across to you. At least they did for me.
 

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...Because at the end it's the MUSIC that counts, not the medium. :b

I got no emotion coming from electronics. But I do coming from the artist and his music though.
 

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Good post.

Intellectually I have understood the weaknesses of recorded media for a long long time, and have low expectations for reproducing anything but the simplest music from a stereo system as far as "being there". However, those details, man, thats cool.

I also have little faith in my hearing memory and find that my mood is most of what makes any resonable quality system sound good or great.

A practical basis for enjoying music and having a good system.

I am still trying to figure out why I can get so much enjoyment from a 5 or 6 inch single speaker mono table radio out in the garage....

There are audiophiles who say that they get no emotional connection from music unless they are listening on a near perfect system. That limitation seems more like an unfortunate disability than something to celebrate.

Bill
 

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There are audiophiles who say that they get no emotional connection from music unless they are listening on a near perfect system. That limitation seems more like an unfortunate disability than something to celebrate.

Bill

+1
 

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There are audiophiles who say that they get no emotional connection from music unless they are listening on a near perfect system. That limitation seems more like an unfortunate disability than something to celebrate.

Bill

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Alvy Singer: On what?
Allison: Political commitment in twentieth century literature.
Alvy Singer: You, you, you're like New York, Jewish, left-wing, liberal, intellectual, Central Park West, Brandeis University, the socialist summer camps and the, the father with the Ben Shahn drawings, right, and the really, y'know, strike-oriented kind of, red diaper, stop me before I make a complete imbecile of myself.
Allison: No, that was wonderful. I love being reduced to a cultural stereotype.
Alvy Singer: Right, I'm a bigot, I know, but for the left.
 

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There are audiophiles who say that they get no emotional connection from music unless they are listening on a near perfect system. That limitation seems more like an unfortunate disability than something to celebrate.

Bill

+ 2
 

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You know Frantz, who cares? Why does everyone have to be judgemental? If that's what floats their boat, great. If that's what they enjoy doing great. Who are you or Tom or we to tell them otherwise?
 

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Allison: I'm in the midst of doing my thesis.
Alvy Singer: On what?
Allison: Political commitment in twentieth century literature.
Alvy Singer: You, you, you're like New York, Jewish, left-wing, liberal, intellectual, Central Park West, Brandeis University, the socialist summer camps and the, the father with the Ben Shahn drawings, right, and the really, y'know, strike-oriented kind of, red diaper, stop me before I make a complete imbecile of myself.
Allison: No, that was wonderful. I love being reduced to a cultural stereotype.
Alvy Singer: Right, I'm a bigot, I know, but for the left.


That pretty much summarizes your generalizations.

I am not Old Listener, i am nonetheless lost here .. .. English is a second language to me, that could explain my loss here but the operative expression in his post was :"There are" Does this suggest a generalization?

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Addendum :
You know Frantz, who cares? Why does everyone have to be judgemental? If that's what floats their boat, great. If that's what they enjoy doing great. Who are you or Tom or we to tell them otherwise?
Whatever floats someone boat is Ok with me ... The observation remains however true as the person in question may be losing something wonderful which contains more information than the mere sounds it reproduces ...
To quote Aldous Huxley (courtesy of Don Herman DonH50) "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley
 

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Allison: I'm in the midst of doing my thesis.
Alvy Singer: On what?
Allison: Political commitment in twentieth century literature.
Alvy Singer: You, you, you're like New York, Jewish, left-wing, liberal, intellectual, Central Park West, Brandeis University, the socialist summer camps and the, the father with the Ben Shahn drawings, right, and the really, y'know, strike-oriented kind of, red diaper, stop me before I make a complete imbecile of myself.
Allison: No, that was wonderful. I love being reduced to a cultural stereotype.
Alvy Singer: Right, I'm a bigot, I know, but for the left.

I have no idea how your Allison-Alvy dialogue relates to my comment.

My comment was based on statements by audiophiles I have read several times on audio forums. I did not have any specific person in mind. Nor did I suggest that the comment referred to all audiophiles.

If you choose to identify with the audiophiles who say that they get no emotional connection from music unless they are listening on a near perfect system, that is your choice. In that case, my sympathies.

Bill
 

MylesBAstor

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I have no idea how your Allison-Alvy dialogue relates to my comment.

My comment was based on statements by audiophiles I have read several times on audio forums. I did not have any specific person in mind. Nor did I suggest that the comment referred to all audiophiles.

If you choose to identify with the audiophiles who say that they get no emotional connection from music unless they are listening on a near perfect system, that is your choice. In that case, my sympathies.

Bill

I don't need your sympathies dude.

I wouldn't expect you to get it.

And keep on being judgemental. After all you are perfect.
 

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There are audiophiles who say that they get no emotional connection from music unless they are listening on a near perfect system. That limitation seems more like an unfortunate disability than something to celebrate.

Bill

For that, I think your handle should become Wise Old Listener.

Tim
 

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At risk of entering the mudslinging fray of emotional snobbishness:

I can appreciate many kinds of music on a transistor radio, but the better the quality of my listening tools, there are more kinds and varieties of music that I have been able to appreciate that I would not have been able to appreciate otherwise.

Every substantive improvement in sound quality has thus presented gifts that I would not have received without them.

So I guess I am a retarded and depraved listener.
 

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I think both view points are correct. I can be touched from music I hear through a table radio-good music transcends the medium you hear it through. However, like Carl, I sure do want to hear it on my he-man rig.
 

MylesBAstor

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And for better or worse, I still love my Nano to listen to music on when not at home.
 

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And for better or worse, I still love my Nano to listen to music on when not at home.

I got a wrist strap for mine. I'm torn between the Muppet Drummer Animal watch face and the Nixie Tubes LOL
 

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