What exactly do you need to tell your carpenter to build you the most amazing room?

[caesar]

What exactly do you need to tell your carpenter to build you the most amazing listening room? I am interested in all the details of what makes a perfect room.

And what is the smallest room size to accommodate a full range speaker?

Thanks

[devert]

What exactly do you need to tell your carpenter to build you the most amazing listening room? I am interested in all the details of what makes a perfect room.

And what is the smallest room size to accommodate a full range speaker?

Thanks

What speakers are you using?

[RogerD]

What exactly do you need to tell your carpenter to build you the most amazing listening room? I am interested in all the details of what makes a perfect room.

And what is the smallest room size to accommodate a full range speaker?

Thanks

planning,planning,and more planning. After doing all the research you can do,have a set of plans drawn up and remember changes after the fact are expensive.

[Nyal Mellor]

What exactly do you need to tell your carpenter to build you the most amazing listening room? I am interested in all the details of what makes a perfect room.

And what is the smallest room size to accommodate a full range speaker?

Thanks

That's a tall order for a carpenter

No offense, but your question is like 'what do I have to tell that cute girl over there in order for her to come home with me?' Ask 10 people get 10 different conflicting answers. Ask a 'Pick Up Artist' (yes there are people who do that professionally and are damn good at it judging by their conversion rate) and maybe you'll be in business.

You need:
- a good size room with favorable dimensions (see the white paper I wrote for a start, there is more in Toole's book, even though he discounts room dimensions because he uses multiple subs)
- proper noise design and construction. Noise doesn't get in, noise doesn't get out.
- acoustic treatment designed in relation to the radiation pattern of the loudspeakers (different for cone/dome conventional forward firing, dipoles, constant directivity, etc)
- appropriate electrical design to supply proper low noise, low stray ground current + low impedances
- appropriate HVAC design to maintain air temps yet meet noise criterion

Build out the shell, then do an initial round of acoustical measurements to validate your design, then do the fit out, then finally do the calibration.

[caesar]

What speakers are you using?

Could be one of several, really. I am looking for the room to accommodate any great full range speaker.

[caesar]

That's a tall order for a carpenter

No offense, but your question is like 'what do I have to tell that cute girl over there in order for her to come home with me?' Ask 10 people get 10 different conflicting answers. Ask a 'Pick Up Artist' (yes there are people who do that professionally and are damn good at it judging by their conversion rate) and maybe you'll be in business.

You need:
- a good size room with favorable dimensions (see the white paper I wrote for a start, there is more in Toole's book, even though he discounts room dimensions because he uses multiple subs)
- proper noise design and construction. Noise doesn't get in, noise doesn't get out.
- acoustic treatment designed in relation to the radiation pattern of the loudspeakers (different for cone/dome conventional forward firing, dipoles, constant directivity, etc)
- appropriate electrical design to supply proper low noise, low stray ground current + low impedances
- appropriate HVAC design to maintain air temps yet meet noise criterion

Build out the shell, then do an initial round of acoustical measurements to validate your design, then do the fit out, then finally do the calibration.

Thanks, Nyal. I ultimately need a project plan. Any chance you could "peel the onion" a bit, and provide some more detail on any of the items above? If this thread works, it could be a great resource for all audiophiles in the world and help the WBF further distinguish itself.

[audioguy]

What exactly do you need to tell your carpenter to build you the most amazing listening room? I am interested in all the details of what makes a perfect room.

And what is the smallest room size to accommodate a full range speaker?

Thanks

Get a highly competent high end audio room designer (as long as it is not Rives Audio)

[amirm]

Is this for 2-channel music or movies too?

[Bruce B]

(as long as it is not Rives Audio)

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[Bruce B]

Here's what I went through. Even though I have a mastering room, it's just like a high-end listening room.

1. Hire someone that will draw the plans.
2. Hire an acoustician. A room designer and an acoustician are not the same. (Get a second opinion)
3. If you want any type of sound resistance, the price automatically triples. I told my contractor to pretend they are building an aquarium or submarine. It needs to hold water. If water can escape (or come in) so can sound. My contractors took the plans and studied up on decoupling techniques before they even started.
4. Take your time. It takes twice as long and cost twice as much to fix something than to build it right to begin with.
5. Symmetry... symmetry... symmetry...
6. Overbuild. Put in more receptacles and ethernet lines than you need. Believe me... you'll run out.
7. Symmetry...
8. Build the acoustics into the room... not something hanging on the wall. Acoustics can be invisible.
9. Did I say Symmetry??

For a full-rang speaker... ie: MM3, ISIS, MAXX3 etc.... you'll need at least 3000 cu/ft