Wav

Vincent Kars

WBF Technical Expert: Computer Audio
Jul 1, 2010
860
1
0
WAV or WAVE (Waveform Audio File Format): Audio file format for Windows developed by Microsoft and IBM.

WAV appeals to the audiophile mind, probably because if you rip a CD to WAV the result is as close as you can get to the CD-format (uncompressed 16 bits / 44.1 kHz PCM audio).

In your audiophile fervor, you rip all your CD's to WAV.
One day you tried another player or you move the files to a new computer and find out that album title, song title, art work, all the meta data you provided are gone.
All those hours you spend meticulously adding the right information are wasted.

This is the paradox of WAV, the support for the music part is almost universal, the support of tagging almost nonexistent.
Due to all these technical problems a lot of people believe that it is impossible to tag WAV. This is not true, it's a matter of writing the tags in the info chunk.

Due to a lack of standards, portability is very low.

If you decide to go for WAV you can use the following strategies:

Don't tag, use a well defined file structure to browse your collection.
You need meaningful file names.
Use a fixed name convention like track/composer/album/opus/song/year/performer.
Some player software can populate their library by parsing the file name and the reverse, renaming the file using the information in the library.
Maybe they can stomach something like this:
1_Franz Schubert _Schubert: Lieder, Vol. 2 (Box Set)_D. 699_Der entsühnte Orest ("Zu meinen Füssen brichst du dich"), song for voice & piano _1820_Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau / Gerald Moore

Beware of the 256 byte limit for the length of path/filename.
Beware of special characters, if you transfer from Win to Linux (NAS) some special characters gives problems.

Moving library and audio.
As most media players allows you to enter all kind of information but stores this in the library (database) only and not in the audio, a possible but risky scenario is to move both library and the audio files to another PC.
Both library and audio has to be in the same location on the new machine.
However, the moment you want to use another media player, all information is lost.

Media players supporting tagging WAV
J River Media Center, dbPoweramp, Foobar write or can read tags in WAV.
They probably write ID3 style tags.
Again, when moving to another player you run the risk of losing all information.

Don't tag but use a cue sheet
A CUE sheet is a seperate text file describing the content of the audio file

Don't use WAV but use a lossless format which supports tagging.
If in doubt if this would compromise sound quality, do a ABX comparison between WAV and its lossless alternative.
Don't forget, lossless is lossless, given the right software you don't tie your hands, you can always convert to another lossless format without compromising sound quality.
 

flez007

Member Sponsor
Aug 31, 2010
2,915
36
435
Mexico City
I use WAV format for all my 5star downloads from CD, problem is that with iTunes it looses some file attributes in random, such as album cover.. so file maint becomes an issue :(
 

Steve Williams

Site Founder, Site Owner, Administrator
I use WAV format for all my 5star downloads from CD, problem is that with iTunes it looses some file attributes in random, such as album cover.. so file maint becomes an issue :(

But as Vincent points out, why not use FLAC, after all, lossless is lossless
 

amirm

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
15,813
38
0
Seattle, WA
Thanks Vincent. It is definitely a pain maintaining tags in .wav. As an aside, we tried to phase out .wav and replace it with a new file format but folks would not move on. The main use of .wav files is for audio editing.
 

FrantzM

Member Sponsor & WBF Founding Member
Apr 20, 2010
6,455
29
405
flac rules ;). No need for wav
 

Thomas.Dennehy

New Member
Jan 5, 2012
122
0
0
Bloomfield Hills MI
flac rules ;). No need for wav

Space is infinite. Space is virtually free. No need to compress.:)

Stupid user trick for getting tags in WAV files from analog sources. Export tracks to FLAC with full metadata. Uncompress to WAV with dbpoweramp. Tags come along for the ride. Recognized by all media players I have tested.
 

FrantzM

Member Sponsor & WBF Founding Member
Apr 20, 2010
6,455
29
405
Space is infinite. Space is virtually free. No need to compress.:)

Stupid user trick for getting tags in WAV files from analog sources. Export tracks to FLAC with full metadata. Uncompress to WAV with dbpoweramp. Tags come along for the ride. Recognized by all media players I have tested.

So you first use the lossless compression (flac) then you decompress it to use more space ...:confused:
 

About us

  • What’s Best Forum is THE forum for high end audio, product reviews, advice and sharing experiences on the best of everything else. This is THE place where audiophiles and audio companies discuss vintage, contemporary and new audio products, music servers, music streamers, computer audio, digital-to-analog converters, turntables, phono stages, cartridges, reel-to-reel tape machines, speakers, headphones and tube and solid-state amplification. Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning about new things and meeting new people, and participating in spirited debates.

Quick Navigation

User Menu

Steve Williams
Site Founder | Site Owner | Administrator
Ron Resnick
Site Co-Owner | Administrator
Julian (The Fixer)
Website Build | Marketing Managersing