Ypsilon vs Aries Cerat pre-power

Thieliste · Jun 9, 2018

Ok guys for my future build if i go the separates route i have decided to choose between Ypsilon pre-power and Aries Cerat pre-power.
Please share your experience with both brands, positive and negative aspects of each of these pre-power combos.
Both of these combos are within my €50K max budget.

Thieliste

jasbirnandra · Jun 10, 2018

Go for Ypsilon it's superb have not heard the Aries though.
the French dealer of Ypsilon is priced high try the Swedish distributor he also has an integrated for sale

Thieliste · Jun 10, 2018

jasbirnandra said:
Go for Ypsilon it's superb have not heard the Aries though.
the French dealer of Ypsilon is priced high try the Swedish distributor he also has an integrated for sale

What's the price difference with the Swedish distributor ?
In France PST 100 MKII is €25K and Aelius II €27K.

MasterChief · Jun 10, 2018

Thieliste said:
What's the price difference with the Swedish distributor ?
In France PST 100 MKII is €25K and Aelius II €27K.

It is about the same:
https://perfect-sense.se/varumarken/ypsilon

Under ”Priser” you can see the prices. One euro is around 10,2 swedish krona.

Bobbi · Jun 14, 2018

For 46k you can get a Aries Cerat Impera pre and Concero 65 monoblocks.
Id get that.

Thieliste · Jun 14, 2018

Bobbi said:
For 46k you can get a Aries Cerat Impera pre and Concero 65 monoblocks.
Id get that.

Yes i know but it's a close call between Ypsilon and Aries Cerat both very good and awsome build quality.

Bobbi · Jun 14, 2018

Can you not demo each brand?

jasbirnandra · Jun 14, 2018

Trust me go for Ypsilon its sounds stunning

Thieliste · Jun 14, 2018

Bobbi said:
Can you not demo each brand?

I have already have demoed the Ypsilon pre-power combo at my home last year.
Regarding Aries Cerat it will be impossible to home demo on my speakers.
I have auditioned the Aries Cerat pre-power you mentioned at the Munich show last year but it was a full Aries Cerat system including the speakers :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nonz1CvEMw

Legolas · Jun 14, 2018

Bobbi said:
For 46k you can get a Aries Cerat Impera pre and Concero 65 monoblocks.
Id get that.

Yes, I second that. Having met Stavros at Munich a few weeks ago, and many of the gang, plus owners of his gear, all I can say is he is the real deal. The products are fantastic IMO and owners I spoke to were VERY happy with them. I would ring Stavros and have a chat, ask any questions from the designer himself, his english is perfect. TBH if I had some spare cash I would go ALL AC front to back in my system. But the injection of the Kassandra DAC has TRANSFORMED my sound for the better. I can only imagine what a pre and power combo will do.....

Bobbi · Jun 14, 2018

Ive listened to both. In totally different systems though.
The Aries Cerat for me had more texture and shading of image that was quite striking. For me Aries Cerat is in another league than anything else ive heard.
Both great brands though. Can't imagine you being unhappy with either.

Thieliste · Sep 1, 2018

Ok guys i will be able to demo a full Aries Cerat rig on the same speaker model i own by end of october, should be spectacular!

Legolas · Sep 1, 2018

Thieliste said:
Ok guys i will be able to demo a full Aries Cerat rig on the same speaker model i own by end of october, should be spectacular!

Which amps are you hearing? I am very interested in this...

Thieliste · Sep 1, 2018

astrostar59 said:
Which amps are you hearing? I am very interested in this...

It will be Diana Forte with Impera II Ref.
If it beats Ypsilon separates i will purchase Impera II + Concero 65.

lordcloud · Sep 9, 2018

Thieliste said:
It will be Diana Forte with Impera II Ref.
If it beats Ypsilon separates i will purchase Impera II + Concero 65.

I'm infinitely intrigued by Aries Cerat equipment, and there are very few first hand accounts of the sound they produce, so I'm incredibly interested in reading your thoughts.

George K · Sep 10, 2018

I tend to agree. Aris Cerat has more natural and richer sound.

Bobbi said:
Ive listened to both. In totally different systems though.
The Aries Cerat for me had more texture and shading of image that was quite striking. For me Aries Cerat is in another league than anything else ive heard.
Both great brands though. Can't imagine you being unhappy with either.

Legolas · Sep 10, 2018

Go See Joshua

lordcloud said:
I'm infinitely intrigued by Aries Cerat equipment, and there are very few first hand accounts of the sound they produce, so I'm incredibly interested in reading your thoughts.

Hello lordcloud, you should ring Joshua up, he is in your area and is the Distributor for Aries Cerat. He is super helpful and knowledgeable as well.

morricab · Sep 10, 2018

Thieliste said:
It will be Diana Forte with Impera II Ref.
If it beats Ypsilon separates i will purchase Impera II + Concero 65.

Will also be with Kassandra II Reference DAC.

lordcloud · Sep 10, 2018

astrostar59 said:
Hello lordcloud, you should ring Joshua up, he is in your area and is the Distributor for Aries Cerat. He is super helpful and knowledgeable as well.

I've talked to Joshua many times, and have been over to his home and listened to his system as well.

He's a good guy.

Thieliste · Oct 30, 2018

Ok guys after my audition of Aries Cerat separates on Thiel CS 3.7 i can now say the AC outperform the Ypsilon separates that i already demoed at home.
The AC amps has all the refinement of Ypsilon + a much richer sound and more resolving solid bass.
The Impera ll + Concero 65 are now in first place on my shortlist.

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