The best Dipoles, Dipoles that can do bass?

Arcadian · May 22, 2018

spiritofmusic said:
Gavin, you’re dismissing the Pnoes prematurely.
Why don’t you go listen to them and tell us what you think.
We’ll swap notes, I’m down to hear them on Saturday.

Please remember that the 2018 Pnoe is clearly better than previous production models. We never stopped improving them.

Audiophile Bill · May 23, 2018

Arcadian said:
Please remember that the 2018 Pnoe is clearly better than previous production models. We never stopped improving them.

Dear Arcadian,

Please could you outline the specific details of the 2018 Pnoe revision - I am most interested in understanding the technical detail of this new solution you described in relation to “mid and high frequency isolation from the bass...”

What does the new “copper baffle” do also? Any other revisions that lead to the 2018 superiority?

Thanks.

zerostargeneral · May 23, 2018

infinitely baffled said:
Apologies to Ked

Well when i was a part of a sound system (Exodus), we ran a mix of sealed boxes, w- bins and scoops for bass.
When i researched the best subwoofers to run outside in my amphitheatre and complementing my EAW thx-spec full range cabinets the consensus on the pro sound forum was either the Danley Labhorn or EAW's bh883, aka Big Bertha aka Levan, the mahoosive bass horns that underpinned the Ministry of Sound's rig at the time it was considered the best dance rig in the world
So i hoped that horns could provide the sound i am looking for, but maybe supplemented with sealed boxes.
Which the Velodynes are, of course

Also the Pnoe have a further advantage....weighing 60kg or thereabouts, and with high efficiency and good power handling, and with a minor structural rejigging chez gav, the Pnoe could also double as outside speakers for the amphitheatre.
Where they are now sited is just in front of patio windows, the other side of the glass is a small patio commanding the amphitheatre so it wouldnt be too hard to shuffle them out of the patio doors, turn 180 degrees and i have sounds outside.....without going to the considerable trouble of building outside enclosures for the vending machine sized EAW 4973f's, and without requiring the 14 channels of pro sound amplification, plus crossovers plus dsp, to drive two 4973f's and four bh883's

Exodus you say?

You must know me then?

I built the entire system at the Luton brickworks '90 not one sealed enclosure.

You may sail very close to your nirvana and only miss because you listened to hairdressers living in bedsits.

I also did Mystery in London and some of the End in Holborn.

Biology,Energy,Sunday Roast,The Mud Club(Everson Allen),The Eclipse,Spectrum,The Clink Street morning sessions,Hoxton train parties(Drax) et al..................

I used to share a flat with Eastie in Leighton Buzzard,we were all broke at the time,days were spent mixing nights spray painting.

That is how it all began for me and my friends, to a man all wealthy in our own way as such we formed the charity to help children the way that music helped all of us.

Kind regards,G.

P.S 853 Guy,you write extremely well,you are clearly very Intelligent.

zerostargeneral · May 23, 2018

infinitely baffled said:
Ok, i hear that

Hear these...............

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zerostargeneral said:
Hear these...............

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infinitely baffled · May 23, 2018

zerostargeneral said:
Exodus you say?

You must know me then?

I built the entire system at the Luton brickworks '90 not one sealed enclosure.

You may sail very close to your nirvana and only miss because you listened to hairdressers living in bedsits.

I also did Mystery in London and some of the End in Holborn.

Biology,Energy,Sunday Roast,The Mud Club(Everson Allen),The Eclipse,Spectrum,The Clink Street morning sessions,Hoxton train parties(Drax) et al..................

I used to share a flat with Eastie in Leighton Buzzard,we were all broke at the time,days were spent mixing nights spray painting.

That is how it all began for me and my friends, to a man all wealthy in our own way as such we formed the charity to help children the way that music helped all of us.

Kind regards,G.

P.S 853 Guy,you write extremely well,you are clearly very Intelligent.

Are you Jak the Stak ?
I'm Gavin, arrived 95, there til the end, lived at Haz manor

My mistake on the sealed boxes ?

zerostargeneral · May 23, 2018

No, Jack came from the Spiral Tribe Ket' drinking crew.He preferred generators,we used the national grid almost always.

My last one was '91 in Hitchin, 30K rig on a juggernaut.

Subsequently my focus shifted to early techno/jungle(juice box crew)production and engineering.When the Outer-Limits stopped playing out was pretty much the end of the scene for us.

Kind regards,G.

spiritofmusic · May 23, 2018

General, the last time I was tempted by the promise of horns on bass driven music was when Bob Marley and AC/DC were brought out to play thru Animas.
I thought I was really in for an amazing time.
Never was a tease so brutally turned into anti-climax .

zerostargeneral · May 23, 2018

Bass is my speciality have no fear.

spiritofmusic · May 23, 2018

Well, I reckon w 250-300k lps in tow, you have plenty to challenge my pre(mis?)conceptions of horns and a truly integrated, extended, and tuneful, low end.

zerostargeneral · May 23, 2018

I will post a sound clip of the Mighty Diamonds when I work out how to.

infinitely baffled · May 23, 2018

zerostargeneral said:
You may sail very close to your nirvana and only miss because you listened to hairdressers living in bedsits.

Sorry that's completely gone over my head.
What do you mean?

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