The best Dipoles, Dipoles that can do bass?
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Dear Mr Baffled,
I think you will really enjoy the Pnoe horn speakers you are looking at - they are stonking. The speed of drums for your kind of musical genre will be hilarious. I have been listening to these horns a lot since December at the General’s house. The picture you put up is the old version - you need the full fat version with AER BD4 drivers and exciters
I think you will really enjoy the Pnoe horn speakers you are looking at - they are stonking. The speed of drums for your kind of musical genre will be hilarious. I have been listening to these horns a lot since December at the General’s house. The picture you put up is the old version - you need the full fat version with AER BD4 drivers and exciters
Dear Mr Baffled,
I think you will really enjoy the Pnoe horn speakers you are looking at - they are stonking. The speed of drums for your kind of musical genre will be hilarious. I have been listening to these horns a lot since December at the General’s house. The picture you put up is the old version - you need the full fat version with AER BD4 drivers and exciters
Thank you Bill
A close audiophile friend and mentor heard them this week and drew the same conclusion you have.
On seeing them i thought
'I have to have these in my life, even if only for a while'
I was going to tease for a bit longer, but i don't want to upset Ken any further
Thanks, my delicate sensibilities much appreciate it.
I was going to tease for a bit longer, but i don't want to upset Ken any further
See your pix and raise you a Munich version...LoL
Yup listened to those today. Very briefly. Will same again tomorrow.
WRT the Gobel Aeon mentioned earlier. The 2018 setup isn't as good as 2017's offering. The speakers don't have the space or the subs and they need both to thrive I suspect.
Also the Divin does scale well and sounds effortless but it is not very exciting. I was disappointed today despite the fact in quite a few parameters it does very well.
There is something very good about the Aeon's flat square driver panel I think, given it looks sort of unique.
Does anyone know anything about it?
For me I would go for the Aeon's and some Gobel subs over the Divin if I had a big room to allow something like the 2017 setup to be realised. With a lot of rear space they do very well with subs planted way back as per 2017.
WRT the Gobel Aeon mentioned earlier. The 2018 setup isn't as good as 2017's offering. The speakers don't have the space or the subs and they need both to thrive I suspect.
Also the Divin does scale well and sounds effortless but it is not very exciting. I was disappointed today despite the fact in quite a few parameters it does very well.
There is something very good about the Aeon's flat square driver panel I think, given it looks sort of unique.
Does anyone know anything about it?
For me I would go for the Aeon's and some Gobel subs over the Divin if I had a big room to allow something like the 2017 setup to be realised. With a lot of rear space they do very well with subs planted way back as per 2017.
I have the new Epoque Aeon Fine, not the Ref, in my listening room now. I was told this year’s showing at Munich is not by Gobel but by Vitus using the Aeon Ref.
Never heard the Divine but I did get a call from a friend that was “blown away” although for the money he would have chosen a Ref with two subs for the same price; his preference.
My Aeons are loaners until mine are delivered. Went for the light silver with Ferrari red. The Bending Wave is an amazing technology. Currently I have a very large room 26x36 with 12 foot ceilings and I have had many many speakers and nothin quite like these.
Not sure what the front end they are using at Munich but mine is the MSB Select II with all Gobel cables including his Ethernet to the MSB Renderer.
These are replacing my Nola Concert Grand Gold.
I have never heard the Ref or the model prior to the Aeon but these have higher sensitivity and the bending handles everything from 160Hz to 30kHz and have 178 degree dispersion. Go to his site to read more about the technology. Having had many ribbons, panels and come speakers I can say these are the most seamless I have ever heard with stellar timbre and just totally disappear into an amazing holographic image I have never heard.
I have had the first pair made (demo pair for the USA distributor) and can’t say enough good things about them. I did the ultimate. Got rid of my “ultimate” speaker for them. Lol.
Thank you Bill
A close audiophile friend and mentor heard them this week and drew the same conclusion you have.
On seeing them i thought
'I have to have these in my life, even if only for a while'
Thing is I doubt it will just be for “a while” because those things just make music in a way that not a lot else does. I am excited for you tbh.
Try to hear the full fat version with exciter on the front and BD4 driver - I think you can hear that at the Hifi deluxe down the road.
Similar to Manger bending wave tech. One uses soft and the other hard material. Daniela Manger gave me a brief overview last year and the Goebel gentleman did a follow up explanation on WBF last Nov.
They are more full range than even my big Heil driver ( freq response only 650hz up to 23K, while the Manger does 80hz to 31K) but the Heil driver is faster, with its air velocity transformer function. Needless to say, I prefer the Heil to Manger (dipole vs monopole). Dont know the Goebel.
Crikey. I'm going to spend a chunk of my weekend thinking about, comprehending that post.
And mine eyes have not recovered from the blizzard of reading provoked by this thread, culminating on thursday
This exciter thing is strange...i thought it was a protective plate for the drive units while at shows.
Turns out its nothing of the sort
Since looking at the other full range drivers available i wonder why they don't use Feastrex?
My friend suspects i may not need as many subwoofers. He also thinks they might be perfect for my outdoor amphitheatre, given they can sustain 130db (!)
I'm hoping to have them in about nine months. I need a bit of time to save and there's a three month lead time
Ha - do you know anything about the AER drivers at all? Feastrex are great but no BD4.
Well I returned from a listening session today - this time powered by NAT Magma in triode mode so about 50 watts. I have never heard these on Jungle / drum and bass etc so we kicked it off there. My goodness, I think you are going to laugh your head off when you hear what they do with this genre. The General has a massive listening room with high ceilings and they severely pressurised the room with no issue at all sounding like a PA system in hifidelity. The bass was hilarious - doesn’t sound like any subwoofer I heard as it is so fast and integrated with the rest yet potent. I am very jealous!!
Hi Bill, still lusting over these giant horns I see. LoL Kicked the Universums to the curb?
Hi Norman,
Good to hear from you! Hope you are well.
Yes still lusting after these more than ever lol. Universums were never being entertained by me only Kedar’s incessant ranting at me to hear them
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