Beware of www.soundmarkt.com - another scam

Elberoth

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Beware of www.soundmarkt.com from Berlin - this is another scam site.

They even claim they have one of their showrooms in Warsaw (which is not true).

This is the kind of emails they are sending out to potential buyers:

Dear Adam,

The units are still available for sale. Condition is excellent, no technical problems, no scratches or dents.

All original accessories,paperwork and shipping materials are included.

Delivery to your door is free of charge, transit time being 3-4 days. During transit from Berlin the order is fully insured.

Based on the EU laws regarding online commerce we offer a 30 days inspection period in which you can test the MBL in your house together with your equipment and if you're not happy with its condition, sound quality or performance you can return it and a full refund will be issue without any questions asked.

In case you decide to purchase you can send us your full name, shipping address and phone number and our Sales Dpt. will issue the sale contract / invoice for you, including the banking information required for payment.

Thank you,

Stephan

---

Stephan Wolfram
Senior Sales Manager
Web: www.soundmarkt.com

Email: info@soundmarkt.com

Adresse:Courbierestraße 17, Berlin, 10787, Deutschland

Ausstellungsraum: https://www.soundmarkt.com/showroom"


Of course, if you ask for personal pickup as you happen to be in Berlin next week (or have a friend living there) - they go mute.
 

XV-1

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microstrip

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What astonishes me is that they have have been online for many years - they are always presented in audio forums as an example of "if its too good to be true, it is not true" .
 

BruceD

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I lost 5000 euros to one of these scamsters

Yes same here on Audiomartke de after agreeing to purchase an item--- I lost €1600 to this Ratbag

Derr Phillip Johannes c/o ING BANK SLASKI SA Katowice POLAND

I'd avoid both if you come across them--

He advertises still with impunity on the EU sites

Blah:mad:

BruceD
 

hongkongfoufou

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Hi, thank you for this post
 

hongkongfoufou

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To detect fake website, you can use WHOIS.
But I don't know for the USA.
For french :
https://www.amen.fr/domains/whois.html

After you write :
soundmarkt.com

The result gives this :
Domain Name: SOUNDMARKT.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2031296843_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ionos.com
Registrar URL: http://www.ionos.com
Updated Date: 2019-05-27T07:23:55Z
Creation Date: 2016-05-26T15:10:29Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-05-26T15:10:29Z
Registrar: 1&1 IONOS SE
Registrar IANA ID: 83
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@ionos.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6105601459
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: NS1042.UI-DNS.BIZ
Name Server: NS1042.UI-DNS.COM
Name Server: NS1042.UI-DNS.DE
Name Server: NS1042.UI-DNS.ORG
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of whois database: 2019-06-17T22:25:19Z <<<

For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois
database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and
automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or
modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry
Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for
information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information
about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not
guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data
to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
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Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign
reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
Domain Name: soundmarkt.com
Registry Domain ID: 2031296843_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ionos.com
Registrar URL: http://ionos.com
Updated Date: 2018-03-21T13:26:10.000Z
Creation Date: 2016-05-26T15:10:29.000Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-05-26T15:10:29.000Z
Registrar: 1&1 IONOS SE
Registrar IANA ID: 83
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@ionos.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8774612631
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Oneandone Private Registration
Registrant Organization: 1&1 Internet Inc
Registrant Street: 701 Lee Road Suite 300
Registrant Street: ATTN
Registrant City: Chesterbrook
Registrant State/Province: PA
Registrant Postal Code: 19087
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8772064254
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: privacy@1and1.com
Registry Admin ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Phone Ext: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Fax Ext: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Email: privacy@1and1.com
Registry Tech ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Phone Ext: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Fax Ext: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Email: privacy@1and1.com
Nameserver: ns1042.ui-dns.de
Nameserver: ns1042.ui-dns.biz
Nameserver: ns1042.ui-dns.org
Nameserver: ns1042.ui-dns.com
DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2019-06-17T21:47:25Z <<<

For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp
 

hongkongfoufou

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You have just a name :

Registrant Name: Oneandone Private Registration
Registrant Organization: 1&1 Internet Inc
Registrant Street: 701 Lee Road Suite 300
Registrant Street: ATTN
Registrant City: Chesterbrook
Registrant State/Province: PA
Registrant Postal Code: 19087
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8772064254

This is just the server name.

So web site is in USA and store are in Europe ?
It's strange, so don't try to buy ...
 

Charlie B.

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https://www.soundceventen.com is a used highend dealership with a very professional appearence. I cannot claim any proof of foul play but they are much too cheap and they broke off contact when I wrote that I would never send them any money in advance.
Potential buyers are free to decide on their own. I would be (and was) very cautious: 21,000€ for a pair of 4 year old Gryphon Mephisto Solos (new over 100,000€) is too good to be true...
https://www.scamadviser.com/de/website-prufen/soundceventen.com gives a bad rating of 29% [mostly German, some English further down].
 

Vicov

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This is more evidence of why we should support good old fashion bricks & mortar HiFi showrooms.
 
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Vicov

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If you can find one that fits your needs.
I guess some are more fortunate than others by virtue of their geographic location. For example, here in the UK we are blessed with more high end dealers than you can shake a stick at. If you live in a remote location however, I appreciate that you may have to think outside of the box to hear/audition potential purchases.
 

Fred

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^^What's the big deal. Just get in your G500 and fly to the high end shop of your choice. Geez, simple. :p
 
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Vicov

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^^What's the big deal. Just get in your G500 and fly to the high end shop of your choice. Geez, simple. :p
I guess that’s what I was trying to say. I thought it best to be a little more tactful.
 

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