What's wrong with this picture???

amirm

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Saw this at the second LAMM suite at CES (Verity Audio Lohengrin II Loudspeakers):



I get the advantage of single point connection. But what the heck with one skinny cable feeding half a dozen monster ones? If thicker is better, why not the primary cord going into the wall???
 

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This is the whole deal:



I would cringe at those monster cables hanging off tiny connectors whether on the equipment or on the wall. Maybe these guys know something about electrical engineering but surely have flunked the mandatory mechanical engineering course :). I saw connectors half pulled out of wall socket with so much cantilever force on them.
 

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What exactly are those, power cords?
 

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Amir,

Many power cables conductors are woven in a spaced braid like geometry, to keep conductor spacing large and mutual crossing at proper angles. They are protected with annealed plastic sleeves having a large internal diameter, independently of the gauge of the conductors. Sometimes thinner cables have higher gauge than the thicker ones ...
 

amirm

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Indeed, that is how this one was. Question I have is why that is good between the distribution point and the equipment but not to the outlet.

I have heard one argument which says that it is the equipment which causes the issues and the filtering occurs in reverse. But even so, you would think that putting the same at the last 3 feet would also be done. Why isn't it?
 

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disclaimer: I am not a believer in high-priced power cables in general, be they big or small.

I suspect if you asked them they would have attributed some magic to the little blue box and that the rest of the cords are needed to maintain high fidelity after that.

Or not. - Don
 

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disclaimer: I am not a believer in high-priced power cables in general, be they big or small.

I suspect if you asked them they would have attributed some magic to the little blue box and that the rest of the cords are needed to maintain high fidelity after that.

Or not. - Don

I have found just the opposite :(
 

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If they don't sound better, they at least look like they can do the hoothie-kootchie.
 
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MylesBAstor

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This is the whole deal:



I would cringe at those monster cables hanging off tiny connectors whether on the equipment or on the wall. Maybe these guys know something about electrical engineering but surely have flunked the mandatory mechanical engineering course :). I saw connectors half pulled out of wall socket with so much cantilever force on them.

You hit on a good point Amir. Having used some thick, heavy cables recently, I would never go back. They just beat the hell out of the RCA connectors and had to have them eventually replaced on my amplifiers. But they also put a lot of strain on my preamp and phono section RCAs :(

Also, one thing I used to really like is the idea of the AC plug "locking" into the AC receptacle like Kimber products. You needed to lift weights to pull the connection apart.
 

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They just beat the hell out of the RCA connectors and had to have them eventually replaced on my amplifiers. But they also put a lot of strain on my preamp and phono section RCAs :(

Myles,
Do you remember the heavy RCA plugs of the top of the range Monster cables of the early 90's ? They were better than dentist teeth pliers to extract RCA connectors from equipment. Sometimes I only found something was missing on the amplifier when I was re-inserting another cable ...
 

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Myles,
Do you remember the heavy RCA plugs of the top of the range Monster cables of the early 90's ? They were better than dentist teeth pliers to extract RCA connectors from equipment. Sometimes I only found something was missing on the amplifier when I was re-inserting another cable ...

Can't say that I do :)
 

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Magic between the amps and the little blue box is just as credible as magic between the box and the wall outlet.

Tim
 

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JackD201

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Marty mentioned a device that the venetian forced everybody to use. Is that blue thing it?
 

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Marty mentioned a device that the venetian forced everybody to use. Is that blue thing it?


More importantly Jack what is it and where can we get one? I'll be selling the mod to make that incoming wire way thicker.
 

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Hi Tom,

Just a minor correction. Those tubes are 6c33c Bs not GM70s :)

Jack
 

garylkoh

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Marty mentioned a device that the venetian forced everybody to use. Is that blue thing it?

Yes, that blue thing is the device supplied by The Venetian to restrict current being drawn so that exhibitors don't have good sound..... err.... trip the circuit breakers.
 

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