Van den Hul Goes Off the Deep End
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I dont know, kinda reminds me of another individual that mysteriously disappeared and reports of using his amazing field generator to musical bliss but then feeling stupid for a couple days after.
Sorry give me speakers and let them do their best, i don't need stuff messing with my mind creating and a "force field" for lack of a better word, in my listening room.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave
http://quwave.com/Scalar-Waves.html
https://jmag0904.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/what-are-scalar-waves/comment-page-1/
Sorry give me speakers and let them do their best, i don't need stuff messing with my mind creating and a "force field" for lack of a better word, in my listening room.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave
http://quwave.com/Scalar-Waves.html
https://jmag0904.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/what-are-scalar-waves/comment-page-1/
There is something to these emitters and resonators in the listening room. The brain tries to make sense of things it sees and hears based on past experience. Listening and sight both involve a lot of brain processing. These devices evidently trick the brain by emanating sounds that are beyond audibility, but do have an effect. I liken it to shining an artificial light of a certain frequency on a scene or using filtering sunglasses. It will enhance the image.
I think it overcomes to some extent that problem of the recorded venue being different than the playback venue and the transducers in the speakers not having perfect dispersion or located where the original instruments and performers were in the space.
Steve N.
Empirical Audio
I think it overcomes to some extent that problem of the recorded venue being different than the playback venue and the transducers in the speakers not having perfect dispersion or located where the original instruments and performers were in the space.
Steve N.
Empirical Audio
“The Extender.
Listening to reproduced sound by any loudspeaker system in all kinds of listening situations made it clear to me that in the sound reproduction of a typical audio system, something essential was missing. That was the feeling of being really physically in the concert hall or jazz café.
The creation of The Extender was based on the search to find this "lost" live experience in any sound reproduction.
However, The Extender produces no sound-field, is therefore literary no super-tweeter. You cannot measure or hear any sound coming from The Extender.
The Extender emits a signal which communicates direct with the brain. Limited loudspeaker performance, colored acoustics, or even some ear defects are hereby bridged. These acoustical limitations in sound reproduction do therefore play no essential role anymore.
The sonic effect after connecting The Extenders is that the reproduced sound has suddenly natural space, depth, a very high definition, and an easy listening. You have the feeling you are facing the musical performance. You are "live" and "there," which was the aim for the creation of The Extender.”
Listening to reproduced sound by any loudspeaker system in all kinds of listening situations made it clear to me that in the sound reproduction of a typical audio system, something essential was missing. That was the feeling of being really physically in the concert hall or jazz café.
The creation of The Extender was based on the search to find this "lost" live experience in any sound reproduction.
However, The Extender produces no sound-field, is therefore literary no super-tweeter. You cannot measure or hear any sound coming from The Extender.
The Extender emits a signal which communicates direct with the brain. Limited loudspeaker performance, colored acoustics, or even some ear defects are hereby bridged. These acoustical limitations in sound reproduction do therefore play no essential role anymore.
The sonic effect after connecting The Extenders is that the reproduced sound has suddenly natural space, depth, a very high definition, and an easy listening. You have the feeling you are facing the musical performance. You are "live" and "there," which was the aim for the creation of The Extender.”
Ya, except physics matters. This is just a fluff device. Maybe you'll love it, but it isn't fixing the physics of recording and playback. It's just pumping RF into the amplifier feedback.
It's too bad that being so exotic, it's unlikely anyone with the most basic of measurement tools will get near it. I'd be curious to check the impedance at low and high level. Remember this is in parallel with your speakers hanging off the amplifier. For all we know the LED power supply spits some noise back into the speaker, or the box loads the amplifier enough to make for some audible difference or instability. Who knows with these magic boxes. All of the above are much more likely than the wild theories being dreamed up for the marketing blurbs.
+1
Just like the findings in those studies that claim that we humans can perceive sounds above 20 kHz under regular circumstances can be explained more plausibly in conventional terms that have nothing to do with 'ultrasonic hearing'.
We can hear no more past 20 kHz (if even that) than we can perceive UV light. Bees do see the latter.
So it is of your opinion that the device is "emitting" a signal back into the signal path and coloring the sound rather than emitting a waveform into the room?
I read it as the later and Jon Iverson thoughts lept to the front of my mind.
Curious as to what really is inside this magic box.
I read it as the later and Jon Iverson thoughts lept to the front of my mind.
Curious as to what really is inside this magic box.
Well according to the link provided by Hi-FiGuy a scalar wave generator converts electricity into heat. Quite clever and I imagine very expensive!* 
*I don't know what the device does and while it's fun to kid I do keep an (skeptical) open mind...
*I don't know what the device does and while it's fun to kid I do keep an (skeptical) open mind...
+2 It is also stated that it sends signals to the brain which, considering its distance from the listener's brain, would require a power output that would be dangerous.
Curiously physics only matters in devices we do not own or do not care about. As soon as they are inserted in our system we forget about the physics ...
Internet audio gossip and marketing ... Again and again ...
I'm not sure if the question was directed at me, but it's clear the Van Den Hul believes it's the latter.
I'm suggesting that many start tinkering with wild ideas and in the process of focusing on such, don't realize what else they've done and how that might actually affect something audible.
Given some products out there, you surely must be right. But I think it is normal to understand, and then have the extreme battle to advertise what was done because it is offensive in concept. That could at least be true for anyone making a copy-like product.
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