Beware of Scam!

Legolas

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In my experience, that is the remaining honest 1%.

Well, for a year or so, from mid 2016-2017 I was searching for a nice example of an Audio Note DAC 5. I came across some and 90% were fraud cases. It was either totally fraud, i.e. the guy didn't have the item at all, or it was a botched DAC 4 'upgraded' to DAC 5 with non spec parts, usually in Russia. TBH it was a disaster. I could point you to 5 adverts right now that are fraud for Audio Note Dacs. I think the reason they pick on this model so much is it can be 'made' to look like a DAC 5 from a lower model. That and the fact it has been around for 15 years with minimal updates, so lots of old examples passed off as nearly new ones or genuine items.

My view is NEVER pay anyone without a phone call, the old way always works. Get to the stage were you are interested, basic info, then ring them, preferably a skype call with video on, see the unit and ask some detailed questions about it. Ask for a photo with your name on a piece of paper under the chassis edge, that sort of thing. It is not rocket science. Remember, if it is a bargain, it is probably a scam.

Also don't forget, PayPal + Ebay is not fool proof, and will wrangle out of a charge back if you don't adhere to the rules 100%. I am unsure what protection you actually have on AudioGon, probably zero. Bank transfers are the worse way....:mad:
 

fish fingers

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My name is actually William, and yes, I'm from UK. Hope he isnt using my identity from other forums Any more info on William?
 

Syntax

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Scam is everywhere.
Wynn Audio did try to betray me when he wanted to buy a cartridge from me
First it was for him privately, then for his friend, he gave me different shipping adresses ( "friend", his, one in Switzerland and one in Germany...), refused to pay via money transfer, wanted a wrong invoice to avoid customs, told him PayPal payment is valid only to the Buyers adress, he did not want to send the invoice through the paypal server, serial no, pics and so on.... he was really thinking how to betray me (paypal will return the money when item is shipped to a different adress) ... i knew after 2 days what's going on but wanted to amuse myself and to check out what he will try.. well yes, 3 weeks later it was ok for me to write "Hasta la vista, Baby" to this shmock.
Still have all the mails
 
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