Disney's deal to buy Fox studio could bring substantial layoffs, analysts say

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Avengers vs X-Men

Too bad the comics series was a total bust IMO
 

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Great, now we'll have a bunch of sexual harassers with extra time on their hands...
 

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According to some, including myself, it's the right time for FOX to sell.
Things are not going too well and they won't get any better for FOX.
Disney is a much solid family value for America. Fox is no good for America.

Disney has more potential to have a better crew and better leaders @ the core of their company. Also they are much better businessmen.
Disney is far from being perfect but better than FOX they are IMO.

Sixty billions is a good chunk, they can resuscitate National Geographic, Planet of the Apes, Aliens, Predators, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Die Hard, ...like they do with Star Wars. They can quadruple what FOX cannot. And Disney stocks are solid for Americans, great stock to own.
Plus Disneyland rides for the kids and you have one of the most universal futuristic-proof companies in the world, second to none after China.

Fox entertainment is too biased towards bias, like one-way street into the great divide. Even their news media are not objective and they don't cover real life from both sides of the world.
I think we live in times of big changes and they know it too. So instead of tuning their own tunes with refinement they sell their cartoons to the toons experts...Disney, who has a good solid bank account.

Sexual abusers, women abusers, children abusers, men abusers, power abusers they are everywhere, including FOX headquarters and Disneyworld. We just have to trust our great leaders in making sure the laws they create protect the innocents from all them movie perverts. And the police needs stopping harassing minorities and defavorised communities and instead do their job, arrest the criminals from the high class.

Sure, I'm dreaming, and that's what movies are all about...entertainment out of reality.
Disney is better than FOX @ it, and FOX has lost his mojo. This had it coming.
Climate change is not only in the air but also on-air.
It's good for FOX, it's good for Disney, it's good for you, it's good for me, it's good for all of us.
 

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This move is perfectly aligned with the disastrous move to end net neutrality. With Disney's new power, they can buy or simply force ISP providers into streaming their content at acceptable speeds.

Look for more consolidation within the media content and distribution in the weeks to come.
 

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This move is perfectly aligned with the disastrous move to end net neutrality. With Disney's new power, they can buy or simply force ISP providers into streaming their content at acceptable speeds.

Look for more consolidation within the media content and distribution in the weeks to come.

There has been a ton of consolidation in recent years even after "net neutrality" was put in place. Marvel, Star Wars, Directv, Comcast etc. The justice department is suing against AT&T/TWX (thankfully)

Net neutrality is the biggest canard out there anyways. Why we want to fit the internet into 80-year old regulation is beyond me. The difference is only that people have bad perceptions about Time Warner or AT&T vs Google and Facebook which are easily quasi-monopolies. And ironically net neutrality just keeps barriers to entry high for new ISPs which is what we need more of for wireless broadband, 5G, etc.
 

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There has been a ton of consolidation in recent years even after "net neutrality" was put in place. Marvel, Star Wars, Directv, Comcast etc. The justice department is suing against AT&T/TWX (thankfully)

Net neutrality is the biggest canard out there anyways. Why we want to fit the internet into 80-year old regulation is beyond me. The difference is only that people have bad perceptions about Time Warner or AT&T vs Google and Facebook which are easily quasi-monopolies. And ironically net neutrality just keeps barriers to entry high for new ISPs which is what we need more of for wireless broadband, 5G, etc.

You've bought the "net neutrality stops ISP innovation" argument? Absolutely ridiculous. ISP is a capital intensive business, even wireless sights have to be purchased or leased, and is not a business that will ever be a lure for innovation. The multi-billion dollar ISP companies were subsidized to the tune of $400B by the American tax payer to lay DSP and Fiber networks, it's only logical to insure that the information that flows over these networks flow freely. The original rule was in response to Verizon throttling back Netflix with an aim to promote their own lackluster on demand services.

I'm surprised how little is understood about net neutrality.
 

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You've bought the "net neutrality stops ISP innovation" argument? Absolutely ridiculous. ISP is a capital intensive business, even wireless sights have to be purchased or leased, and is not a business that will ever be a lure for innovation. The multi-billion dollar ISP companies were subsidized to the tune of $400B by the American tax payer to lay DSP and Fiber networks, it's only logical to insure that the information that flows over these networks flow freely. The original rule was in response to Verizon throttling back Netflix with an aim to promote their own lackluster on demand services.

I'm surprised how little is understood about net neutrality.

No Jeff, I've bought the "why are we regulating this in the first place argument" and remember the telephone industry in the 70s and 80s which overall decreased investment and took forever to roll out call waiting and the like because of these kinds of regulations. it's not "freely" under net neutrality - its subsidizing huge users who can determine how we view data. and there is no harm that has been established from 20 years without net neutrality. aren't ISPs supposed to be on equal footing with Netflix? We consumers crave content unbundling now, but all of sudden fear internet unbundling? Why am I supporting huge YouTube (or YouPorn haha) users while I'm using email and light internet only?

there will be a time soon when you probably won't need hard wired broadband - and the govt certainly can't plan for technology advances. in fact, my small ISP (Belair Internet) now brags about always giving people equal bandwidth - which would be in direct competition with one of the big ones if they were to do the opposite.

finally, people also don't understand how local governments/utilities impede ISP growth. we've see multiple bond issues in this department and most of them are failures.
 

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No Jeff, I've bought the "why are we regulating this in the first place argument" and remember the telephone industry in the 70s and 80s which overall decreased investment and took forever to roll out call waiting and the like because of these kinds of regulations. it's not "freely" under net neutrality - its subsidizing huge users who can determine how we view data. and there is no harm that has been established from 20 years without net neutrality. aren't ISPs supposed to be on equal footing with Netflix? We consumers crave content unbundling now, but all of sudden fear internet bundling? Why am I supporting huge YouTube (or YouPorn haha) users while I'm using email and light internet only?

there will be a time soon when you probably won't need hard wired broadband - and the govt certainly can't plan for technology advances. in fact, my small ISP (Belair Internet) now brags about always giving people equal bandwidth - which would be in direct competition with one of the big ones if they were to do the opposite.

finally, people also don't understand how local governments/utilities impede ISP growth. we've see multiple bond issues in this department and most of them are failures.

You've confused the net neutrality issue with net usage, or you've bought into the spin that the ISP are spewing. It's not your fault, they've spent millions spewing this. Forget about the usage issue, focus on the content issue. Government subsidized ISP are the only method of viewing the internet to millions in rural areas, new ISP's will never spend money bringing the internet to them. These government subsidized quasi monopolies can now throttle back competitive content providers to push their inferior products.

We the people have paid for 95% of the internet in the USA, we should determine how its used. Also, several of these ISP's are owned by Christian Evangelicals. Watch them throttle back or turn off YouPorn or NPR.
 

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You've confused the net neutrality issue with net usage, or you've bought into the spin that the ISP are spewing. It's not your fault, they've spent millions spewing this. Forget about the usage issue, focus on the content issue. Government subsidized ISP are the only method of viewing the internet to millions in rural areas, new ISP's will never spend money bringing the internet to them. These government subsidized quasi monopolies can now throttle back competitive content providers to push their inferior products.

We the people have paid for 95% of the internet in the USA, we should determine how its used. Also, several of these ISP's are owned by Christian Evangelicals. Watch them throttle back or turn off YouPorn or NPR.

then you should know that rural ISPs hate net neutrality and have more trouble competing since 2015 (btw, I have analyzed distressed city-owned ISP deals). and saying they "can" do this isn't the same as them actually doing this and net neutrality fans have scared the public into believing so. you are simply preferring other quasi monopolies while I prefer having them on equal ground. said another way, i want "fast lanes" and don't deem them harmful. putting everybody on "equal footing" is a disaster for regulation and has proven to be the case with the TelCos.

and adding Christian politics is unnecessary bro.
 

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then you should know that rural ISPs hate net neutrality and have more trouble competing since 2015 (btw, I have analyzed distressed city-owned ISP deals). and saying they "can" do this isn't the same as them actually doing this and net neutrality fans have scared the public into believing so. you are simply preferring other quasi monopolies while I prefer having them on equal ground. said another way, i want "fast lanes" and don't deem them harmful. putting everybody on "equal footing" is a disaster for regulation and has proven to be the case with the TelCos.

and adding Christian politics is unnecessary bro.

You brought up YouPorn, so bringing up Evangelical politics is totally necessary. A large part of the motivation of the Christian Republican Party's obsession with repealing Obama care is the requirement of business to offer birth control.

Understand that Christian theology is at the center of most of the Republican programs, deregulation and judicial appointments.
 

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You brought up YouPorn, so bringing up Evangelical politics is totally necessary. A large part of the motivation of the Christian Republican Party's obsession with repealing Obama care is the requirement of business to offer birth control.

YP is the largest interneUnderstand that Christian theology is at the center of most of the Republican programs, deregulation and judicial appointments.

No, it's not. And I believe YP is a top 5 user of broadband in the world which is why I joked about it.

But seriously. let's get back on topic or i'll leave the debate.
 

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The times they are a changin' ... with everything streaming full steam ahead including mining ... the data of the internet racing @ the speed of light ... heat generated and electric grids @ full capacity ... the planet erupting from climate change ... cooling and warming ... the entertainment world from the white house to Twitter ... Disney/Fox the art of the Deal.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/12/disney-21st-century-fox/548492/

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/dec/15/disney-fox-movies-captain-america-predator
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Behind the lines someone(s) is pulling the strings in the direction of our destined future. From the readings provided in social news, mags, TV mainstream, ...this is a good deal for Fox, very.

Fifty years ago we were children and teenagers playing in soccer fields, skating arenas, school playgrounds, football fields, baseball bunkers, golf courses.
Today we came a long way and the kids are still playing, with higher stakes in the world of sports and entertainment...news, movies, music, arts.

Are they going to build more movie theaters with screens the size of Babel towers, and install laser lights that split the eyes into smithereens with sound piercing the timpanis till we get new eye and ear implants and look like AI robots in the seats of our theaters, or are we going to be entertained in the couch of our automated driving electric cars flying above the ozone layer and underground through boring tunnels looking @ our burn-in OLED screens some Disney flick of the latest series of mutants X-Men versus Minions?

What would we do without our news, sports, super heroes, TV channels, Twitter, Elon Musk and Amazon?
If computers didn't exist hacking and bitcoin we would have never heard of.
 

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