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    R2R DACs 2017

    These type were rare in 2010, now they're surging.

    Current production, player or processor, made in U.S. or U.S. presence.

    Multiple price points if apply:

    Up to 3k: Border Patrol, Monarchy, Denafrips, Audio-gd, MHDT, Holo, Soeskris, Metrum, Schiit

    5-15K: Audio Note, MSB, Metrum, Computer Audio Design, Aqua, LessLoss, Totaldac, Lampizator

    15K+: CH Precision, Aries Cerat, Light Harmonic, Audio Note, MSB, Totaldac, Lampizator

    **Special mention to MSB, Monarchy and Audio Note, who never gave up R2R. Even after the takeover of delta-sigma.
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    Yep, quite true.

    I have a friend who recently bought a DIY R2R DAC that I believe also comes built called Soekris and it's absolutely outstanding. I think it's about $1500 fully assembled an includes volume and a headphone amp. The digital sonics / $ are ramping like nobody's business!
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    I believe my Pacific Microsonics Model Two is R2R Ladder. It is more than 15 years old. Does up to 192/24 PCM with dual wire. Of course it is an A to D and D to A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.phelan View Post
    In 2010, it was just MSB and LessLoss -but now, R2R DACs are surging.
    Made in U.S. or have presence here. (Euro-brands like Rockna not incl.)
    Up to 3k: Soeskris, Metrum, Schiit
    5-15K: MSB, Aqua, LessLoss, Totaldac, Lampizator
    Two made-in-China brands are becoming popular in Asia and Europe and I am sure that there are owners in N America too :
    1. Denafrips : Terminator, Venus, Pontus & Ares. (MSRP USD680-4480)
    2. Audio-gd : R2R 7 HE; R2R 7; R2R 1; R2R 2; R2R 11. (MSRP USD350-3480)
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    My trusty Resolution Audio Cantata MC 2.0 from 2011 is also R2R with its four 1704 units

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    I have had almost only R2R dacs in my audio career. Monarchy Audio M22B had BB PCM63s, Monarchy Audio M24 also had BB PCM63s, Kinergetics Research KCD-55 Ultra had two UltraAnalog D20400 modules, PS Audio Ultralink II also has the UA D20400, Aries Cerat Kassandra has 8 AD1865 chips per channel (16 dacs per channel in total). The only detour was for a while I had the Audio Aero Prima DAC that used AD1855 (I think) Delta/sigma DAC...I ended up finding it inferior to the Monarchy M24.
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    One of the most musical (R2R) DAC's we've had here in Stockholm:

    http://www.computeraudiodesign.com/1...gue-converter/

    / Marcus, http://www.perfect-sense.se

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    Quote Originally Posted by morricab View Post
    I have had almost only R2R dacs in my audio career. Monarchy Audio M22B had BB PCM63s, Monarchy Audio M24 also had BB PCM63s, Kinergetics Research KCD-55 Ultra had two UltraAnalog D20400 modules, PS Audio Ultralink II also has the UA D20400, Aries Cerat Kassandra has 8 AD1865 chips per channel (16 dacs per channel in total). The only detour was for a while I had the Audio Aero Prima DAC that used AD1855 (I think) Delta/sigma DAC...I ended up finding it inferior to the Monarchy M24.
    I still keep Audio Aero La Fontaine as second PCM DAC and Sacd player with Burr Brown 1792 chipset and upsampling STARS module , micro triodes in output stage.
    It is a keeper for me, with R2R Lampi as a first PCM/DSD DAC.
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    Is MSB purely R2R? Their website say hybrid. It implies that it can convert DSD natively.

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    XXX believes that YYY technology used in current DAC chips does not sound as natural as ZZZ technology.

    I have read it tens of time, only XXX, YYY and ZZZ vary. Fortunately we can pick what our preferred DAC technology and smile, some one who feels like us has probably written the proper sentence. I have listened to several technologies sounding excellent, IMHO it is the implementation and details that make the difference. And curiously, most people ignore the technical aspects of implementation and details, they just know the soundbytes.
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